Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ...
by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:05AM
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> As an American living in Switzerland, this is not a fair comparison
As a Swiss American, I agree. Today’s Second Amendment debate is perverted.
My argument was to the point of the Second Amendment, its intent. America is currently on an extreme end of the gun-debate spectrum.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ...
by jbattle on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:00AM
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So the Swiss have ... a well-regulated militia? Wish we had thought of that!
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ...
by Andrex on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:15AM
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It's almost like that language was inserted into the Constitution for some explicit purpose, but then someone (the Supreme Court) forgot about that along the way...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
I think it's weird how American gun advocates didn't get upset when SCOTUS took some white-out to the amendment they claim to hold so sacred.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ...
by jki275 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:28PM
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Except that's not at all what happened. The plain language of the 2nd amendment is quite clearly and accurately explained by Scalia in Heller. He took no "white out" to it, he explained what anyone without a political agenda has always known the 2nd amendment meant.
As an American living in Switzerland, this is not a fair comparison. The Swiss strategy involves mandatory service (with the backing of the government), short and long term preparations against an outside invading force (with the backing of the government), highly regulated gun ownership (with the backing of the government). It's always wielded with the backing of the government against an outside force.
In stark contrast, the U.S. mindset around gun ownership has always been about wielding the weapons against the government itself. Instead, what this effectively means is that this will be an easily hijacked ideal if, in our politically charged era, portions of the government are viewed as "illegitimate" and one part of the government backs a coup with gun-toting civilians against "the government" (the part not liked).