Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by adrianN on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:22AM
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The energy rating problem could have been easily avoided by giving out labels according to consumption percentiles. The top 10% of the models on the market get an A, etc. But I assume that manufacturers wouldn't be happy about that.
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Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by twanvl on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:48AM
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These ratings would change over time, so an A+ rating in 2017 would not be the same as an A+ rating in 2019. I think that is very confusing. Is a second hand A rated model better than a new D rated one? Who knows.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by adrianN on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:51AM
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I find that perfectly fine. Why should an old model retain its A rating when in fact it consumes a lot of energy compared to a newer model? Just print the actual consumption on the sticker to make comparisons between older stickers and newer stickers possible.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by Tomte on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @07:25AM
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Nobody updates those ratings, though.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by mehs on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:38AM
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That means energy efficiency rating will change by date, A rated product of last year could be different (could be better or worse) by this year's A rated product. Can't we just use "numbers" instead?
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by epanchin on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:34AM
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That would encourage manufacturers to lower the efficiency of non flagship models. How about just regrading every few years? Potentially add a number to the start.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by adrianN on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:58AM
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That's a good point. You could avoid that problem by giving grades relative to the best product on the market, e.g. anything that doesn't use more than 10% more than the most efficient model on the market gets an A.
Regrading every year seems to be about the same as what I propose. I guess the actual numbers used for the current rating are based on actual efficiencies of the models on the market when the regulation was introduced.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by tomatocracy on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:26PM
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Only if consumers pay any attention to energy efficiency labels. I strongly suspect that with washing machines and dryers, they simply ignore them and look instead at the other features (particularly load size and cycle timing) and the price.
Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances
by blue_devil on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:30AM
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Exactly. They are willing to regulate, but slowly, inefficiently, and timidly.