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Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances by simion314 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:01AM (#21122703)
Honestly I don't think you gain more then a few dollars when you make the components a few mm thinner.

I don't think the customers are a big force here, from my experience is the same part that breaks first but is there a strong enough incentive for the producer to investigate the issue and make that part stronger? If the customer will buy a new product or a new part that is extremely expensive then the producer is encouraged to engineer that part to break exactly when the warranty is over.

I have a question, maybe someone here knows the answer, why are everyone make a new model each year that most of the time seems to be a redesign that brings nothing new, As an example I use same keyboard model and each time I buy a replacement it has changed a bit in design and internals, making them almost incompatible for salvaging components from one and fixing other)

Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances by mytailorisrich on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:23AM (#21122817)
> I don't think the customers are a big force here

Of course they are. Customers are not stupid, they know what they are doing. They know that a cheap appliance will last long enough and that "in 10 years I'll want to buy a new one anyway".

> why are everyone make a new model each year that most of the time seems to be a redesign that brings nothing new

Because that's what sells. You need 'new' to convince people to buy it, certainly to buy it at the same price it was last year.

Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances by simion314 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @04:02AM (#21123071)
I disagree with you, let me give some examples that are not phones or computers where you can have maybe a different reason to buy a new model.

I like the microsoft natural 2000 keyboard, it has a soft rest place that it scratches and in max 2 years it gets destroyed and the cable where it enters the case gets bent and used. So I now have 3 or 4 models that I bought over the years, there is no actual improvement, all the complaints in the reviews like noisy space bar were not addressed, just some small visual changes. So I am wondering why they did a new design,it probably costs a lot, did they found a way to gut 1$ worth of plastic?

If we think at the environment and not at profits for the keyboard case there are 2 imediate things you could do:

- sell the soft rest parts, there are easy to change if compatibility is not broken (i done it myself no special tools were needed but I transplanted them from a different one)

- make the cable easy to replace (like you have with HDMI screens) so if I destroy the cable I can buy and just replace it rather then open the keyboard and find a different keyboard and grab the cable from that.

IF the above would be costly to implement then maybe they can address the problem and make an improved design.

Other example, I have a water pump, it has inside it a plastic/rubber balloon thing. This balloon will break every few months. I am wondering that they could make it 2 times more expensive and last 2 times more and it would be great because of the time and comfort lost when you have to replace it. But my waster time and confort plust he fact the old plastic thing goes into garbage is not factored in the producer calculations. So after this thing broke for the n-the time on me I would pay 10 times more and have it last 10 times more, I don't want cheap and bad but I do not have a choice.

I admit there is a small chance that it is impossible to make this component stronger but this change is extremely small, probably the current one is the perfect balance for the producers and is at the threshold where the users won't give up and buy a new pump(you have no idea if a different model does not have same issue)

Re:EU brings in 'right to repair' rules for appliances by morsch on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @04:07AM (#21123104)
With a little encouragement by the $500 billion advertising industry.