Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, especially on ultra-worn flamewar topics. We're trying to avoid those here, because the discussions they lead to are always predictable and get nastier as they go along.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I do realize I'm balancing a thin line by even touching the subject, but I have no intention of starting wars.

I find it highly questionable to derive happiness from killing animals, and I think most people do once they find the courage to look reality straight in the eyes.

If we can't even talk about it, how are we ever going make progress?

Flamewars on HN don't help make progress. Maybe talking to people in person would help.

If your ethics require it, fine. I've got no such hang ups.

It's vastly easier to have a balanced diet if you don't restrict yourself from high-quality sources of nutrition.

What is it about vegan sources that make them lower quality?

If anything, they're higher quality since they're closer to the source; whatever you get out of meat has already been used once. Which is also why raising animals to eat meat is so wasteful.