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Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by erdgdsgbdfsg on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:41AM (#21115220)
No, shipping is the most efficient.

Not only are drag loses comparatively small, those two stroke diesels are crazy efficient from a thermodynamic point of view (massive, slow, and high compression ratio -> crazy efficiency).

Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by i_am_proteus on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:46AM (#21115258)
It's so efficient that barge transport is still preferred to rail where a navigable river is available.
Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by linuxftw on Monday September 30, 2019 @01:42PM (#21117813)
It's efficient in the sense that if you compare kgs of goods per km, but it's not efficient when you consider the great distances ships travel versus producing goods domestically, just to put those same goods on rail and trucks anyway.
Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by flyingfences on Monday September 30, 2019 @04:40PM (#21119471)
If you consider the efficiency of shipping finished goods versus shipping the raw material (and, possibly, labor) necessary to produce the goods domestically, how does that affect the comparison?
Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by linuxftw on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:37AM (#21124639)
This statement seems to assume the same shipping of raw materials isn't taking place elsewhere.

Ore goes from the mine, to the forge, the raw steel goes to the manufacturer. That probably requires a bit of shipping, doesn't matter which country it takes place in.