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Re:The perils of short-termism by djrobstep on Monday September 30, 2019 @05:43AM (#21113283)
Disagree. Plenty of middle class people who struggle with housing costs. I'm one of them. If you know the state of Australia's housing market this is obvious.
Re:The perils of short-termism by taneq on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:07AM (#21113806)
What definition of "middle class" are you using that includes "can't pay the rent/mortgage"?

Note that losses from rental properties don't count as housing costs, that's just poor business return.

Re:The perils of short-termism by djrobstep on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:41AM (#21115224)
We were talking about people delaying/avoiding children for financial reasons.

That doesn't imply "can't pay" necessarily, but when rent/mortgage payments are high, that leaves less spare cash floating around for the additional/unexpected expenses, a scary prospect.

Even those on comfortable incomes can find them unexpectedly disappear.

Re:The perils of short-termism by hoseja on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:08AM (#21113820)
I think taneq is implying that while you might beleive you're middle class, the fact of struggling with rent, by some definition of middle class, makes you not middle class.