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Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by far33d on Thursday May 10, 2007 @02:27PM (#21113)
I'm fascinated by businesses that still deal in physical goods or services, but are enabled because of the web. The two best examples being netflix and city carshare-type businesses.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by altay on Friday May 11, 2007 @04:37AM (#21278)
oh, i totally agree, far33d... those make for the coolest companies. anyone know anything about sensor networks? lately i've been thinking that a sensor network plus an accompanying web app could be useful in lots of domains.

for example, here's an idea that's been kicking around in my head. (i'm not the right guy to start this company, so i'll just throw out this there.)

you know how people at the gym often track their workouts -- "3 sets, 10 reps, 150 lbs" -- with pencil and paper? that's so 20th century. why not build a sensor network for exercise equipment? you get on a scale or weight/cardio machine. it knows who you are -- RFID in your membership card? -- and it wirelessly uploads your workout data from that machine to a server.

as a gym member, you get a login to an accompanying web app, which is automagically populated with your data. you can set goals, track your workouts + results with pretty graphs, etc. no more paper+pencil tracking -- just work out and log in.

sell this sensor/software platform to gyms (or perhaps the equipment manufacturers), and you've got yourself a business.

where does the internet come in? well, aside from the tracking app for individuals, with all this aggregate data, you'd revolutionize exercise science. is interval training really better than marathon cardio sessions? more weight+fewer reps, or less weight+more reps? even basic collaborative filtering would be cool: "people with bodies like yours got these results with this workout plan."

it'd disrupt the (absurdly lucrative) personal training industry.

point is, out there in the "real world," there's tons of data that's just waiting to be aggregated and analyzed. that'll certainly be the basis of many interesting companies.

Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by shadtchnev on Friday May 11, 2007 @10:30AM (#21344)
I've just returned from the gym with such a system installed :) Well, not exactly. I have to enter my five-digit number at each machine, so that it knew who is exercising but apart from that it does almost everything you described. http://www.fitlinxx.com/brand.htm
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by altay on Friday May 11, 2007 @04:24PM (#21422)
cool!! that's totally it. now if they'd only get this in my gym... =)
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by danw on Thursday May 10, 2007 @04:22PM (#21146)
Don't forget threadless and moo as two other great examples of using the web to rework real world products.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by far33d on Thursday May 10, 2007 @05:55PM (#21163)
Great examples. I think the most successful web businesses will be those that enhance one's "real" life.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by danw on Thursday May 10, 2007 @07:21PM (#21187)
the most successful web businesses will be those that enhance one's "real" life.

This is why I think mobile has such great potential. A platform that the user carries around with her all day that has rich sensors such as camera, microphone and NFC. It's perfect! (apart from the small screen but thats a small price to pay for such access to an user)

Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by far33d on Thursday May 10, 2007 @11:17PM (#21234)
Well, perfect except for the handset manufacturers and carriers you have to deal with.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by danw on Friday May 11, 2007 @09:25AM (#21323)
It'll take time but eventually (5-10years) they'll stop getting in our way. For now I can keep dreaming..
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by far33d on Saturday May 12, 2007 @04:46AM (#21546)
I've been thinking about this today and I realized that there's one thing that makes the carriers and handset manufacturers unimportant.... browser support. If the incumbents continue to stifle innnovation, then the best apps will come out as m.mycrazywebsite.com instead of as installed software.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by danw on Saturday May 12, 2007 @08:43AM (#21587)
Just like with webapps. The problem with mobile browsers is that it takes 5-10 seconds every time the user clicks a link which quickly gets annoying. Luckily nokia, opera and others are giving uss mobile widgets. As easy to make as web apps but run on device with full api access to hardware. We just have to wait the 2-3 years whilst it becomes standard on most handsets.
Re:Is anyone working on something that is not a website? by rurucu on Saturday May 19, 2007 @09:05PM (#23317)
agree!