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Re:Culture still doesn’t explain poverty by Joakal on Sunday January 16, 2011 @04:46PM (#2110342)
How about this study from a black professor into why rich black kids still flunk: http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/rich-black-flunking/C...

He got his reputation attacked when it was shown that there was a belief that the school should take care of everything (Parents didn't encourage/supervise, students didn't care, etc).

Re:Culture still doesn’t explain poverty by OasisG on Sunday January 16, 2011 @08:29PM (#2110880)
I'm familiar with the study and generally give it more weight than other studies by people who dip in and out of the black community solely to collect data.

That said, I don't think it's entirely wrong to think that if you send your child to school for 6-8 hours a day, they should actually come home having learned something.

I didn't have helicopter parents, my parents just watched for grades. No PTA meetings, no reviewing my hw, no private tutors... I grew up and went to schools in the hood, but still got great grades, took a dozen AP/advanced courses, was in IB, got into an ivy league college, etc. etc.

So there was definitely something going on at school with regard to student expectations, curriculum, and teacher quality (I had amazing teachers).

Re:Culture still doesn’t explain poverty by Joakal on Sunday January 16, 2011 @10:23PM (#2111086)
Sounds like you didn't read the study. The study showed that some kids thought education was uncool and 'being white'.
Re:Culture still doesn’t explain poverty by OasisG on Sunday January 16, 2011 @10:45PM (#2111130)
Actually, I read the study some time ago, and am very familiar with it's findings. My response was to your specific comment here:

"there was a belief that the school should take care of everything (Parents didn't encourage/supervise, students didn't care, etc)."

I thought that was clear...