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Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by thelittleone on Friday September 27, 2019 @06:18PM (#21096756)
In Bali, Indonesia (and many developing countries) you have no choice. Drinking tap water is also health hazard in some countries.
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by mastazi on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:02PM (#21097056)
In Bali, Thailand and many other places in SE Asia, you can get water that comes from local treatment plants (it usually looks like this[1]) instead of "brand" bottled water (like these ones[2]), the former is almost always bottled locally (at the nearest water treatment plant, they are ubiquitous in SE Asia even in regional areas, sometimes they are subsidised by governments), as a result the water tends to stay in the bottle for a much shorter time whereas "brand" water is not sourced locally and it travels long distances after being bottled. In addition the employees of the local water treatment plant will often come and take back empty bottles to use them again, so in those cases you have nearly 100% recycling and very little plastic waste.

I don't have any evidence that [1] contains less microplastics than [2] unfortunately, but I think it could be the case.

(I have lived in Indonesia for about one year and part of my family is from Thailand).

[1] http://www.nomad4ever.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/bottle_...

[2] https://www.bali.com/media/image/865/plastic-bottles-waste.j...

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by peteretep on Friday September 27, 2019 @11:42PM (#21098275)
Surprised you didn’t mention the ubiquitous bring-your-own-container 1 baht water vending machines in Thailand too, which as I understand it are doing ad-hoc filtering:

https://m.alibaba.com/product/137674491/Water-Vending-Machin...

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by mastazi on Sunday September 29, 2019 @01:13AM (#21105242)
Yes you are right, those are another very good example of locally treated water, my Thai relatives live in a rural area where the “gallon bottles” are more commonplace so I forgot to mention those machines.
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by fouc on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:30PM (#21097187)
The 18.9L/5 gallon water jugs are common even in Canada and US also, it's not unique to Asia. They do get washed and re-used also.

It's an interesting question if they'd be at risk for microplastics as well.

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by thelittleone on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:08PM (#21097089)
There’s also a system where Nestle gallon containers are filled by small merchants with local filtered bore water and recapped and sold (often as original).
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by mastazi on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:19PM (#21097455)
In many places in SE Asia, Nestle "gallon containers" are sold at a premium compared to locally purified water (often 3X - 4X the price), but I would be curious to see side-by-side water analysis results...
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by peteretep on Friday September 27, 2019 @11:44PM (#21098280)
If you have money, you can buy a small water filtering unit for the house that gives you drinkable “tap water”. We had one in our fridge in the early 90s in Bangkok.
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by Scoundreller on Friday September 27, 2019 @06:32PM (#21096857)
Depending on what the hazard is, disinfection tablets can be effective and much cheaper than buying water.

Or SODIS sunlight disinfection.

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by thelittleone on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:05PM (#21097070)
Haven’t tried those tabs for many years but I recall them tasting terrible. Good for emergencies perhaps.

Filtration systems are available but cost several thousand dollars and require core replacements every two years for around $300-400.

On the other hand, a gallon of potable water from one of the few springs in Bali costs around $3.

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by Scoundreller on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:25PM (#21097163)
The NaDCC tablets leave no taste.
Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by Ayesh on Friday September 27, 2019 @09:29PM (#21097770)
Water purification tabs, straws, and bottles are not practical unless you are in an extreme environment to find clean water (hikes, for example).

- They tested awful. Iodine tablets have an awful taste after. We often use orange flavored powder to hide it.

- They are expensive in third world countries. You have to use one tablet per liter, and it costs about 10 cents USD per tablet. In comparison, you can buy a 1L plastic bottle of water for 30 cents.

- it takes about half an hour to work, so you can't use them immediately.

- Even if you buy those straws, they have a maximum lifetime before you have to replace the filter (about 1000l). You will need to replace about twice a year if you were to use as the daily drive.

Re:Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in glo... by Scoundreller on Saturday September 28, 2019 @08:04AM (#21099898)
I couldn’t tell any taste with the NaDCC based chlorinating tablets. They’re not household bleach.

Iodine is old tech, and has other issues.

10cents < 30cents. And don’t underestimate the logistics of transporting bottled water.