Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by WhompingWindows on Friday September 27, 2019 @02:45PM
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Question: Other than energy wasting, is it harmful to computers to allow them to idle? We leave dozens of desktops on all the time at my work...most people never even shut theirs down for months.
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Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by 1q2w3e4r5t6y7u8 on Friday September 27, 2019 @04:01PM
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It's unlikely that this would matter to most people, but leaving the computer sleeping rather than hibernated or shutdown partially defeats any full disk encryption. Recovering keys from RAM is possible for a short period of time after power is removed. [1] Microsoft suggests disabling sleep when using bitlocker encryption. [2] And it is similarly suggested that Ubuntu use suspend-to-disk (hibernate) rather than suspend-to-RAM (sleep) when utilizing full disk encryption. [3] For better security leave the computer shutdown when not using it.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack 2.https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/i... 3. https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/208921/is-suspe...
Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by LinuxBender on Friday September 27, 2019 @03:15PM
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Likely the bigger impact is on the HVAC cost. Test it out some time. Have your facilities team show you HVAC power consumption for a month. Then for a month, turn off all the PC's on the weekend and after hours.
Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by pmiller2 on Friday September 27, 2019 @02:55PM
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Technically yes. There are 3 types of phenomena that cause transistors to degrade or fail. All 3 are caused by electrons flowing through the gates. See https://semiengineering.com/transistor-aging-intensifies-10n...
Practically speaking, however, I doubt it makes much of a difference for most desktop systems.
Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by monocasa on Friday September 27, 2019 @03:06PM
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There's way more in computers than transistors ; you have to weigh that against the other effects on the complete system. I would be surprised if the thermal cycling from shutting down and booting the computer wasn't orders of magnitude more likely to cause problems than actual wear on the transistors. That being said, all of these issues are very unlikely to occur.
Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by Symmetry on Friday September 27, 2019 @03:20PM
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There's a certain amount of electromigration that happens in silicon transistors with a voltage applied but it scales strongly with temperature so I wouldn't worry if the processor is idle. I suppose mechanical wear on the fans is a concern?
Re:Ask HN: Should I turn off my idle machine over the weekend?
by tomatotomato37 on Friday September 27, 2019 @03:27PM
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Probably more harmful to the active software session than the hardware. A lot of programs (OS's included) have subtle memory leaks and other obscure bugs than can take multiple days to manifest.