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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by jdnenej on Friday September 27, 2019 @04:41AM (#21089759)
Stallman has a post about how he refuses to use the word they because it's not traditionally correct English and has choses to invent his own word "per" to refer to someone without specifying gender.

This seems acceptable to me. Stallman has always been weird with word choice but I see no bad intent here.

Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by mnsc on Friday September 27, 2019 @05:32AM (#21090010)
> This seems acceptable to me

And to other's that seems like he doesn't respect the wishes of others and instead behaves in a way that is logically sound in his own mind. That's not a crime. Just a disrespectful way of behaving that generates antagonists instead of friends.

Side note: "per" is very funny to me as a swede since it's a super common traditionally(exclusively?) male name.

Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by scoutt on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:52AM (#21091331)
> respect the wishes of others

Please define "others". It should be a definition that is not only "transgender people". Could it be "all the people in the world that is not you"?

If so, it is impossible to please them all. Some will contradict each other. It will generate antagonists or you will be seen as rude whenever you want it or not.

So you may decide you will be siding and pleasing those "others" who are "right" (based on your personal preference only). But at the same time, not everyone who is "not right" is necessarily "wrong".

I'm not siding with anyone, and I won't tell if I use or not special pronouns. But today the discussion is about pronouns. Tomorrow, who knows? Up to where are you willing to bend?

Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by Uberphallus on Friday September 27, 2019 @10:30AM (#21092381)
And my wish is that you empty your wallet and gimme all your money. See? Now you're not respeting my wishes. Not a crime, but you're disrespecting me and antagonizing me!
Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by hdfbdtbcdg on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:00AM (#21090900)
Didn't Swedish add a new pronoun for gender neutral? I.e. exactly what RMS does?
Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by mnsc on Friday September 27, 2019 @11:01AM (#21092732)
No, not really. We added "hen" who is short for "han/hon" ("he/she"). Some people want "hen" as pronoun as well which I think is awkward. I've only met nb people here who wants to be called "den", I guess from english "they". That is really hard for my programming since "den" is commonly used to refer to inanimate objects. It seem so inhuman to me that I have a really hard time respecting that. I try though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by hdfbdtbcdg on Friday September 27, 2019 @12:51PM (#21093872)
He and she (and apparently now they) are subject pronouns as are han/hon... What is hen if not a subject pronoun?
Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by mnsc on Sunday September 29, 2019 @02:18AM (#21105443)
IANAL (linguist) so I'm sure you're right. My point is that hen wasn't promoted to use to refer to actual people but to eliminate the annoying "he/she". A construction which often was forgotten when referring to a profession which has a stereotypical gender. Ex: Doctors become "he" and nurses become "she". That was the problem "hen" tried to solve.
Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by dependenttypes on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:17AM (#21091018)
> That's not a crime. Just a disrespectful way of behaving that generates antagonists instead of friends.

That goes both ways though.