Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by dreamcompiler on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:53AM
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Nope. Replace the Earth's Moon with a black hole of the same mass. Nothing bad would happen except our nights would be darker. Our tides wouldn't even change.
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Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by monkeycantype on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:07AM
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Sure, fine for you and me.
Might, have been a problem for Buzz Aldrin though.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by dehrmann on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:13AM
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Michael Collins, it's your time to shine.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by monkeycantype on Thursday September 26, 2019 @04:15AM
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One of my favorite things is to have made a joke, where it turns out the real value of the joke is to set the context for someone really funny to take it in an unexpected direction, and if the direction is heartbreaking in seven words or less, all the better.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by quickthrower2 on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:18AM
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What if a moon mass or earth mass black hole collided with the sun? Would it suck in matter and eventually consume the sun?
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by dreamcompiler on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:38AM
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Probably but it would take a while. Any relative angular momentum between the Sun and the black hole would result in the hole orbiting the Sun since an earth mass is tiny compared to the Sun. It might well orbit beneath the surface of the Sun, sucking up plasma as it orbits. How long would it take to "eat" the Sun? The calculation could be done but it's tricky; the hole grows as the Sun shrinks, and that causes the mass transfer to accelerate. And the Sun is denser in the middle and the hole will spiral inward as it grows to keep the center of mass of the system in the same place, etc etc.
It's possible there are one or more black holes orbiting inside the Sun right now. They might be the reason sunspots exist.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by saagarjha on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:51AM
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> It's possible there are one or more black holes orbiting inside the Sun right now. They might be the reason sunspots exist.
Practicing your impression of Calvin’s dad, I see…
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by sliken on Thursday September 26, 2019 @02:12AM
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Depends. Is the velocity of the black hole relative to the sun higher or lower than the escape velocity of the sun?
If higher than it's going to keep going, if lower, then yes eventually it's going to consume the sun.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 26, 2019 @04:34AM
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Wouldn't momentum transfer from the consumed mass slow it down?
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by sliken on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:12AM
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Some, but the sun isn't very dense. So sure if you were ever so slightly above escape velocity the consumed matter could slow you down.
A black hole the mass of the earth is 9mm. The weight of a cubic cm of sun is around 1.41 grams. The black hole isn't really going to notice.
The pass through the sun is around 1.39102e+11 cm * 1.41 grams per cm^3 = 139 million KG. So the earth weighs around 4.2* 10^16 more than what a black hole sized hole in the sun weighs.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 26, 2019 @08:26AM
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I thought its gravitational pull and the pressure around the black hole should cause it to absorb much more mass that that estimate.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by est on Thursday September 26, 2019 @03:41AM
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The sun emits earth sized mass all the time, I imagine the blackhole could get sway to different directions.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by chrismorgan on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:06AM
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The question “What would happen if the Moon were replaced with an equivalently-massed black hole? If it's possible, what would a lunar ("holar"?) eclipse look like?” is answered at https://what-if.xkcd.com/129/. It starts with “ ‘Not much’ and ‘not much.’ ”
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by dreamcompiler on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:21AM
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I have that book and it's wonderful. I was probably plagiarizing unconsciously.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by InterestBazinga on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:04AM
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Are there any sources on this? Would love to read more on this theoretical scenario.
Re:What If Planet 9 Is a Primordial Black Hole?
by RandallBrown on Thursday September 26, 2019 @01:11AM
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Not really the same scenario, but Neal Stephenson's Seveneves is a fictional account of what might happen if the moon suddenly exploded.