News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by unityByFreedom on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:19AM (#21078123)
Irreversibility of transactions is not a feature I want.

If someone wants to rob you of all your bitcoin, they can hold a gun to your head until you give it to them. A bank, on the other hand, has transaction limits.

If I buy something online with a credit card and soon after discover it's fraudulent (which has happened to me on multiple occasions), I can reverse that too.

Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by mlyle on Thursday September 26, 2019 @02:53AM (#21078838)
Note that the property we're talking about isn't really irreversibility of individual transactions. We can come up with whatever policy about what can show up in a ledger, including "undo" transactions.

But what we want is that once transactions are recorded to a ledger, that it's not possible to remove that record.

This durability is a highly valuable property for financial transactions and other things where non-repudiation is desired. However, it's a possibly scary property, too (what if something copyrighted or illegal ends up in the forever-durable and public ledger?)

Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by commoner on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:24AM (#21078146)
That criticism also applies to cash.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by tempestn on Thursday September 26, 2019 @12:35AM (#21078204)
True, although most people wouldn't hold nearly as much cash as is commonly held in bitcoin.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by leni536 on Thursday September 26, 2019 @05:33AM (#21079468)
I guess wallets are called wallets for a reason.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by Lucadg on Thursday September 26, 2019 @03:04AM (#21078886)
You'd keep in yourself a small amount of Bitcoin. You'd keep at home a bigger amount. You'd keep in a safe place the rest. Exactly as with cash.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by junipertea on Thursday September 26, 2019 @03:44AM (#21079034)
You put cash in a bank.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by Lucadg on Thursday September 26, 2019 @03:53AM (#21079067)
You can put your seed words in a bank safety deposit box.
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by davidgerard on Thursday September 26, 2019 @04:02AM (#21079097)
Safety deposit boxes turn out not to be secure or guaranteed. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-22/don-t-...
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by Lucadg on Thursday September 26, 2019 @05:49AM (#21079542)
It depends on the country but I agree. Being programmable money I expect better solutions to come in the future. This is a recent and interesting one https://blog.trezor.io/shamir-backup-the-revolution-of-priva...
Re:Kik, once valued at $1B, is to be closed by Fnoord on Thursday September 26, 2019 @06:50AM (#21079781)
> Based on a cryptographic algorithm created by Adi Shamir, publicly known as Shamir’s Secret Sharing, Shamir Backup is a revolution in how you use, store, and protect the backup of your private keys.

A "revolution". They just applied SSS. Hardly rocket science.