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Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @12:28PM (#21072318)
It can be selective. I suspect some teens will happily accept an authority figure who says "ignore your parents and health teachers, who say vaping is bad". Juul certainly seemed to think it was worth the money.
Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @12:30PM (#21072353)
I disagree, they could care less. This has very little to do with what drive teen vice use, the danger/badness is part of the equation. If you take away cigarettes and vaping, they’ll just move on to marijuana or heroin, or maybe glue. Nothing about “what’s healthy” is driving their choice here.
Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by chimeracoder on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @12:50PM (#21072572)
> If you take away cigarettes and vaping, they’ll just move on to marijuana or heroin, or maybe glue. Nothing about “what’s healthy” is driving their choice here.

This claim is pretty strongly refuted by all available evidence, given that (before vaping), tobacco use among teenagers had been in a consistent decline for decades, without a corresponding consistent increase in marijuana or heroin use among teenagers.

Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @02:06PM (#21073421)
Even if tobacco use was decreasing, that doesn’t mean something else wasn’t increasing in its stead. It could have been ridlin, opioids, meth, etc...I’m not sure what the popular bad stuff between 2000-2010 was, perhaps some younger HN readers could fill us in.
Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by chimeracoder on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @02:18PM (#21073566)
> Even if tobacco use was decreasing, that doesn’t mean something else wasn’t increasing in its stead. It could have been ridlin, opioids, meth, etc...I’m not sure what the popular bad stuff between 2000-2010 was, perhaps some younger HN readers could fill us in.

As someone who used to work in drug policy during this exact time period and has a very strong grasp of the facts on the matter, I can assure you that your speculation is entirely without merit. Teen tobacco use decreased. It didn't pawn off those would-be tobacco users onto other drugs, as if drugs were some fully fungible entity in teenagers' minds. Teen tobacco use decreased, full-stop.

Re:Juul Labs CEO to Step Down by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @02:14PM (#21073526)
Maybe you could go find some evidence for your pet theory before considering that pet theory to be accurate?