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Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by djsumdog on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @10:53AM (#21071335)
Today, if you suggest that Snowden is a plant; how he might still be working for a government agency like the NSA, CIA or State Department; how he was a black ops to see how Americans would react: you get dismissed as paranoid. Every time I bring this up, I get downvoted to grey. Can we have an honest discussion on this?

Guy makes six figured, works remotely as an NSA contractor from Hawaii, suddenly had a moral conscience, somehow had multiple laptops with classified data, leaves his smoking hot girlfriend to meet journalists from The Guardian and Der Spegiel and gave them evidence that was composed of poorly made slides; almost all of which have been released heavily redacted -- all have been heavily dismissed by the US government, Yahoo, Google, Verizon and others. Honestly, the 9/11 truth evidence feels like it should have been more convincing, and yet every media agency took this as gospel.

If the revelations are taken at face value, why couldn't it also be possible this was all just a test by intelligence agencies? Companies have strengthened their general security and the general population hasn't .. really cared. Both of those are valuable pieces of information gathered by the government.

Look at COINTELPRO and Operation Mockingbird. At the time, if you had said such programs existed, it would have been viewed as crazy conspiracy. But they did exist and intelligence agencies in the US government has manipulated their own people in past decades.

Either Snowden is incredibly clever and lucky, or he's a stage show. He should be in the situation Assange is in now. It's difficult to believe he's still in an unknown location, hiding out in Russia. The whole story stinks and I feel like no one wants to have a rational talk about the alternative: that it may be more manipulation and testing to show that Americans don't really care about surveillance.

Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by trenning on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @11:12AM (#21071508)
If the govt wanted to test the public's reaction I don't think they needed to go so far as to reveal PRISM or MUSCULAR.

> It's difficult to believe he's still in an unknown location, hiding out in Russia.

Wouldn't this make Russia a party to this theory? As far as I can tell they don't deny harboring Snowden, which if he wasn't actually there hiding from the USG wouldn't they call the US on that?

Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by driverdan on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @11:52AM (#21071948)
I downvoted you because this conspiracy is ridiculous with zero supporting evidence.

Want to know about his motivation and background? Read his new book and watch Citizenfour. He explains what lead him to be a whistleblower.

> all have been heavily dismissed by the US government, Yahoo, Google, Verizon and others

Completely untrue. Much of it has been confirmed. If it was fake the government wouldn't be charging him with espionage.

Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by rocqua on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @11:33AM (#21071745)
I haven't followed this closely, but how much of what Snowned revealed has since been independently confirmed?
Re:Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations by andrei_says_ on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @11:44AM (#21071841)
I wonder if seeing citizenfour swill shift your opinion.