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Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by dubcanada on Monday September 23, 2019 @12:47PM (#21050693)
Not to be pedantic but the Dell machine is on sale, and Apple isn't.

It's list price is $4,420.29 which is still about $1500 off. But that comes with Windows that supports 4 cores so you would need to upgrade to the 4+ cores one thats another $100 so more like $1400.

So basically $1400 is the difference between a top tier Dell and a top tier Apple. Still a fairly large margin, but after a certain number the amount matters less. People who are buying $4500 computers typically don't care about spending another $1000.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by sjburt on Monday September 23, 2019 @12:55PM (#21050777)
Dells are always on "sale". It's part of some game involving enterprise sales and negotiated discounts off list price.
Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by delfinom on Monday September 23, 2019 @01:19PM (#21051041)
Yep. Dell's website will always show a sales price. Even better, use a different browser or refresh a hour later and the price will change as well. Even Lenovo and HP do it. The best is when you enter the configuration for a PC build and hit refresh and you see individual items change in prices.

Also if you go via a Dell sales rep you easily get 10% extra off that "sales price" for low volume buyers and if you are a large volume buyer you can easily get as much as 50% off the list price even for high ticket value items.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by madeofpalk on Monday September 23, 2019 @02:24PM (#21051874)
Likewise for Apple (though I guess Dell's discounts are more substantial
Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by penagwin on Monday September 23, 2019 @05:17PM (#21053797)
Wait what? Apple rarely if ever has "sales" on their products, I've seen student discounts and itunes gift cards, but that's about it.

At Dell/HP/Lenovo meanwhile half their products are "on sale" the same way that furniture stores have "sales" - its "sale" price is basically it's real price.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by madeofpalk on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @02:57PM (#21063446)
They don't have sales, but they definitely have 'sales team pricing' .
Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by CryptoBanker on Monday September 23, 2019 @01:48PM (#21051410)
Speak for yourself. My laptop cost almost $5,000, my desktop cost almost $3,000 to build, and you can bet that another $1,400 would have made a huge difference either way. Not to say things wouldnt have ended up the same way, but I definitely would have cared about another $1400.

When you're talking about numbers like that for individuals, 15% is a lot. Even businesses would care about a 15% increase in costs

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by benologist on Monday September 23, 2019 @01:59PM (#21051557)
I think it hurts when the last $1400 is basically 12 Thunderbolt 3 ports and the power allowance for them. There's no value in that many TB3 ports for most people.
Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by bradlys on Monday September 23, 2019 @02:22PM (#21051845)
Well, I think the point of the Mac Pro is that it's not for most people.

It's actually a "Pro" product.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by benologist on Monday September 23, 2019 @02:43PM (#21052101)
They could have put most of those TB3 ports and controllers in optional PCIe cards and the $4999 base model would still be Pro. Because the point of the Pro devices is to be the more-powerful option.

The iPad Pro doesn't have any TB ports and the Macbook Pro and iMac Pro only have 4 each so I think 12 is simply unnecessary for the "Pro" moniker in addition to greatly exceeding most people's requirements.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by coupdejarnac on Monday September 23, 2019 @02:45PM (#21052128)
Most of us here are "pros" who use our computers to make money.

Maybe if Mac Pros were designed for animation studios or something niche, the pricing would make sense.

Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by llampx on Monday September 23, 2019 @03:33PM (#21052675)
The "Pro" suffix completely lost its value with the iPhone 11 Pro Max.
Re:Apple’s New Mac Pro to Be Made in Texas by briandear on Monday September 23, 2019 @04:12PM (#21053084)
How? Have you used the Pro phone?