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A comment on Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster.

Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by WalterBright on Saturday September 21, 2019 @03:53PM (#21037522)
On the other hand, "Air Disasters" S13 E2 is about the crash of an Airbus A300 that stalled and crashed. The reason was because Airbus changed the way the "go round" mode worked, and the pilots were not aware of it nor were trained on it. The pilots kept pushing the nose down and the automation kept pulling it up, until it crashed.

Airbus also has an Airworthiness Directive out on it for pitch instability:

" This AD was prompted by analysis of the behavior of the elevator aileron computer (ELAC) L102 that revealed that excessive pitch attitude can occur in certain conditions and during specific maneuvers. This AD requires revising the airplane flight manual (AFM) to incorporate updated procedures and operational limitations, as specified in a European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) AD, which is incorporated by reference. The FAA is issuing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products."

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/...

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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by V_Terranova_Jr on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:53PM (#21038135)
Air France 447, Qantas 32, and Qantas 72 all highlighted significant flaws in Airbus' Guidance/Nav/Controls subsystems and their automation approach. That doesn't make the article's criticisms of Boeing the slightest bit less valid.
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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by WalterBright on Saturday September 21, 2019 @09:00PM (#21038947)
I didn't say the criticisms weren't valid. Why isn't Airbus undergoing the same scrutiny? Causing a crash and losing everyone on board is just as serious a problem.
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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by acqq on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:08PM (#21037938)
Somehow I miss how is S13 E2 in any way relevant to the topic of the article here discussed, which is, as far as I understand, just about the problems brought to Boeing by Boeing's own management.
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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by WalterBright on Saturday September 21, 2019 @06:59PM (#21038436)
It's relevant in that Airbus management is not being raked over the coals for that disaster, which has many similarities.
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Re:Boeing's Managerial Revolution Created the 737 Max Disaster by acqq on Saturday September 21, 2019 @07:52PM (#21038683)
Did they do their regulatory evaluation themselves, hiding what they produced, still claimed that what they did was "not important" after one crash, tried to blame the pilots, waited for a second crash, again claimed that it's the pilots responsible for the second crash, insisted for the planes to keep flying after the second crash? Was it all the effect of their decision to lie about the facts of design of the whole plane to everybody?

I still consider what Boeing did hard to match with any other event, except maybe with some other Boeing actions.

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