What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014)

Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by GordonS on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:15AM (#21034298)

> Just worried about forcing colleagues having to learn SQL instead of using a fancy wrapper

I'd argue that learning SQL is essential for any developer.

It's also a "reusable" skill that will stand them in good stead for decades - whereas learning how to use the fancy wrapper is only useful until the next new shiny comes along.

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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by ljm on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:54AM (#21034409)

I’d add that it’s essential so you can understand how to optimise and debug a query. You lose a lot of power if you can’t open up a console to describe or explain things.

The long-standing ORMs do a pretty decent job of writing efficient queries these days though. You can go pretty far without knowing much and that’s not a bad thing either.

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