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Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by throwaway2048 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @12:14AM (#21033472)
Global foundries still does plenty of production, most chip production doesn't occur at cutting edge nodes.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by stjohnswarts on Saturday September 21, 2019 @01:16AM (#21033647)
You're exactly right. There's a lot of money to be made outside of 3/7/10nm. I'm not sure why geeks get hooked on having the smallest/biggest or nothing and assuming anything else is failure
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by rowanG077 on Sunday September 22, 2019 @01:42PM (#21042695)
It's because it's immensely cool what humanity can continue to achieve.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by jdietrich on Saturday September 21, 2019 @02:42AM (#21033891)
>most chip production doesn't occur at cutting edge nodes

Of course, but the margins are much better on cutting-edge nodes. Being second-to-market on a node doesn't save you much on capital costs, but you have to compete harder on wafer pricing. TSMC have about 5x the revenues of GF and the gap is widening.

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by baybal2 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @04:03AM (#21034097)
> Of course, but the margins are much better on cutting-edge nodes.

No, not anymore for at least a decade, and this is the very reason GloFo bailed out on the "Arms Race." Extreme capex with uncertain payback times looked very scary to their investors.

TSMC 7FF will only break even next year.

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by kingosticks on Saturday September 21, 2019 @07:52AM (#21034761)
>TSMC 7FF will only break even next year.

I've no idea if that's true but assuming it is, then from next year it's pure profit and they are the big fish in a pond of 2 (or 3?) fish with no new fish in sight. People will be using this process for years and years to come. With so little competition at 7nm and the high barriers to entry (even over time) they can surely maintain their margins for much longer than at previous nodes. I'm not saying bailing wasn't the right decision for Global Foundries and the risk might be higher now, but so the rewards.