What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014)

Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by scarface74 on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:17PM (#21033080)

I’ve never seen a homegrown ORM that was better than a third party one. Whenever there is an issue - and there are always issues - you have to dig into the code, because they are never documented well.

There is usually a feature that no one thought about and then you have to make modifications to the custom ORM and you get an even bigger mess.

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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by lugg on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:39PM (#21038072)

Better is a subjective term.

I wouldn't say what I built was a better ORM. But I would 100% say it's a better solution to the problem I faced.

It didn't get in the way of writing SQL, but it did reduce the boilerplate and repetitive gruntwork.

"Issues" - no, it was a function call deep and incredibly clear and close to what was happening.

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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by LeonB on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:03PM (#21033216)

sort of agree but also: the good third party ORMs started life as homegrown ORMs.

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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by collyw on Saturday September 21, 2019 @08:08AM (#21034827)

Usually third party stuff has documentation. Home grown stuff often hasn't. And usually better tested.

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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by scarface74 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @01:51AM (#21033739)

Entity Framework didn’t.....

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