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Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by kieckerjan on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:33PM (#21032663)
Thank you! You just said something I very much agree to but never dare to say out loud.
Re:What ORMs have taught me: just learn SQL (2014) by __MatrixMan__ on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:08PM (#21032811)
I think that the way to say it without starting a war is to preface it with something like:

> Well, redundancy and dependency both have downsides, but in this case...