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Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by dondada on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:16AM (#21025785)
You'd be surprised how many people don't use adblockers. There will be a few people switching but I don't think anymore than 1% of total Chrome users
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by troydavis on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:18AM (#21026329)
> You'd be surprised how many people don't use adblockers.

Most studies[1] done in the last 2 years report between 20-40%, depending on the population and device type (laptop, desktop, phone, tablet) studied.

While I can't say what % you or GP would estimate or whether you'd be surprised that it's 20-40%, I think 20-40% is a lot.

[1]: Choose any study or summary of one: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+percentage+of+internet+...

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by nvrspyx on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:38AM (#21026519)
But how many are actually using uBlock Origin? Nearly every person I come across is using AdBlock, AdBlock Plus, or some other adblocker, no matter how many times I recommend they switch to uBlock Origin. Most people are not aware of what Chrome’s changes mean (or of the changes at all) and for those that do use uBlock Origin, my guess is most people will simply switch to a different adblocker rather than switch to a different browser.

I doubt uBlock Origin being removed from Chrome will change the status quo. Maybe in a few years when enough powerusers convince enough casual users. If you just look at software out in the world, it's clear that powerusers have next to zero influence. It's why desktop Linux use, for example, is still just a blip after all of these years.

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by autoexec on Friday September 20, 2019 @05:47PM (#21031655)
> my guess is most people will simply switch to a different adblocker rather than switch to a different browser.

the moment they can't find ad blocker that actually works they will stop switching ad blockers and switch browsers.

What's holding back linux isn't the lack of influence power users have, it's that it's still lacking in gaming, hardware compatibility, and ease of use (although those are improving all the time)

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by cooljacob204 on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:27AM (#21025886)
Yes but power users do. And power users are the ones who set up and influence their friends and families browser choices.

At least that is my theory on it.

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by gkilmain on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:23AM (#21026386)
This is correct. I remember showing friends Chrome after hearing their complaints about how slow IE was. Some had to get over the hurdle of downloading and installing chrome (whereas IE just came with the laptop) but once they used it they never looked back.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by glogla on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:49AM (#21026081)
Thanks, I just realized I have to switch my mother from Safari to Firefox now that Apple decided to forbid uBlock.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by geerlingguy on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:14AM (#21026295)
It’s less Apple forbidding uBlock, and more uBlock deciding to not turn itself into a content blocker for the newer version.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by input_sh on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:34AM (#21026482)
That's just wrong. It's impossible for uBlock Origin to turn itself into a content blocker while retaining its current functionality.

Content blockers in Safari are limited to 50k filters. uBlock Origin's default filters have more than that. Therefore, the choice is between a new, but much less useful extension, or no extension at all. uBlock Origin decided on the latter.

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by lotsofpulp on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:07AM (#21026812)
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by saagarjha on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:36AM (#21027118)
To be fair, multiple extensions is a huge hack and has complexities of its own.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by KeE8MAT1u2 on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:46AM (#21026585)
Firefox on iPhone doesn't support addons either unfortunately
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by torgard on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:39AM (#21026008)
Doubt it. I imagine most people use the browser that came pre-installed on their phone.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by scarface74 on Friday September 20, 2019 @09:07AM (#21026239)
If you’re using iOS - you’re always using the rendering engine that came with your phone.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by dmix on Friday September 20, 2019 @01:33PM (#21029213)
People always downplay the power that technical users have on regular people.

Who do you think the moms and friends all listen to? Their technical friends. This of course won't hit 90% of users but it's enough to have a large influence well beyond just power users.

Few companies survive pissing off the nerds when there is legitimate competition available in consumer products.

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by packet_nerd on Friday September 20, 2019 @02:09PM (#21029605)
> Few companies survive pissing off the nerds

I wish this sage advice was part of every business executive's education. :-)

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by citilife on Friday September 20, 2019 @01:58PM (#21029487)
Tell that to Oracle...
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by dmix on Friday September 20, 2019 @02:18PM (#21029690)
B2B enterprise sales is a totally different beast than free consumer software. That type of boardroom decision making is inherently disconnected from the technical capabilities and even integration success rates.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by Vinnl on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:29AM (#21025911)
Especially when the method of content blocking that is supported will probably still block a significant bunch of them.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by loeg on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:46PM (#21032718)
It's a rapidly shrinking majority. There's a network effect here where people learn about things and share with their friends.

You're probably not wrong that there will not be a rapid initial migration. Maybe more over a longer time period. Maybe not.

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by jm4 on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:34AM (#21025961)
I think if it was that small, Google wouldn’t take an aggressive stance against ad blocking. They would likely retain more users overall by appealing to that small power user minority that converts others.
Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by 9dl on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:00PM (#21033005)
You'd be surprised how not many people need to change trend

And for small browser like safari it will be fast death

And for chrome

On mobile chrome is already (for me) dead coz it not allow extensions

Re:Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other block... by alskdj21 on Friday September 20, 2019 @08:22AM (#21025845)
This is true. Being on a third-world country, the internet for the people here is the social media.