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Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by tantalor on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:58PM (#21021136)
You are aware aerial photography is legal and common?
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by yomly on Thursday September 19, 2019 @06:12PM (#21021260)
Right but what happens when you have coverage that is refreshed every hour or even less? You then have another surveillance network, one which is very hard to opt out of
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by btreecat on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:45PM (#21028679)
That's not what these particular aircraft are capable of.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by zawerf on Thursday September 19, 2019 @06:28PM (#21021383)
I think we're way past that point already. Everyone with a phone already has their location tracked at least by their phone company. You might've even given it away to other companies willingly: https://www.google.com/maps/timeline.

I don't think there were that many unintended consequences from this tech. We got better traffic jam maps. And maybe a handful of criminals who forgot to leave their phone at home got caught.

I think this is one of those things that people growing up with the tech won't think anything of it (mom wants to always know your location) but old geezers will reminisce of a time where we still had to call a landline and talk a friend's parents first to see if they are home.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by mehrdadn on Thursday September 19, 2019 @07:01PM (#21021606)
> I don't think there were that many unintended consequences from this tech.

Honestly the last time I saw a drone, the most annoying thing about it was its noise. I can't imagine them buzzing around all the time simply because of that.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by shadowgovt on Thursday September 19, 2019 @10:52PM (#21022900)
This was one of the leading complaints in the testing of Wing in Australia IIUC.

Delivery worked, but neighbors complained that the drones sounded like they were powered by the chained souls of the thousand hungry damned. They've apparently worked hard to get the sound down to a mere hundred hungry damned. ;)

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by taneq on Thursday September 19, 2019 @11:49PM (#21023192)
They should work on getting some vibrato in there so they sound like angels instead. ;)
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by nicky19890202 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:44PM (#21022581)
Agree, when developing technology,they need to think more about the impact on others.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by btreecat on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:58PM (#21028847)
They are. Frangibility was a huge part of the resulting design.

You might say _impact on others_ was one of the most important things they had to address with the FAA.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by thaumasiotes on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:48PM (#21022258)
You get at least as much noise from living in a city.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by legohead on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:01AM (#21023246)
Have you heard a drone? even tiny ones are loud as shit. some guy in my neighborhood flies his drone occasionally and it's super annoying. I can't imagine how annoying these giant drones delivering packages will be.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by btreecat on Friday September 20, 2019 @12:47PM (#21028720)
Yes, I fly them professionally. The sound is related to the size, pitch, and profile of the propellers as well as the speed they are spinning.

The reason the guy down the street is probably loud is he is flying a race drone and hitting very high RPMs with it.

It seems that due to frangibility concerns, Project Wing uses much smaller motors and props now which requires a higher RPM to beat the air into submission.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by thaumasiotes on Friday September 20, 2019 @03:33AM (#21024077)
Have you heard a siren? They're intended to be loud.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by mehrdadn on Friday September 20, 2019 @04:47AM (#21024514)
> Have you heard a siren? They're intended to be loud.

They're also intended to do things like saving people's lives, not delivering their Amazon orders.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by thaumasiotes on Friday September 20, 2019 @10:01AM (#21026746)
Ambulance and fire engine sirens; police not so much. But that really has no bearing on how loud they are.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by nitrogen on Friday September 20, 2019 @02:02AM (#21023679)
The type of noise is completely different from a drone.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by mehrdadn on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:51PM (#21022274)
Yes, in some parts of cities, and not everyone lives or wants to live in a city.
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by Dylan16807 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:13PM (#21022410)
The amount of public photography doubling over and over in an exponential increase of surveillance is a serious problem that cannot be dismissed with a simple "the act is legal and always has been".
Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by fovc on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:20PM (#21022454)
In a legal studies class I took we compared two cases taking about (IRRC) unreasonable searches. In one, a police officer walking a beat saw some drugs/guns/etc. through a window and promptly got a warrant for a search. In another, the police "happened to be doing some aerial photography" over a weed farm and thence got a warrant etc. IIRC, the former was fine, the latter wasn't, basically because of the definitions of "ordinary" or something like that.

Obviously IAMNL, YMMV, etc., but the legal system does care about degree of normalcy.

Ps: if someone can better fill in the details I'm sure these are commonly studied cases and that I've butchered the facts. Please correct me!

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by tantalor on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:51PM (#21022616)
Aerial imagery over a farm might be unusual, but it's common in urban environments.

https://www.appgeo.com/maps-pointers/google-now-selling-aeri...

Since around 2011 Google has been flying its own missions to collect 6 inch (15 cm) pixel imagery across the entire United States... goal is to have nationwide imagery that is no older than three years old everywhere, and to have imagery that is no older than one year in the largest metropolitan regions in the USA

Eagleview and Nearmap are other companies doing the same thing.

Re:Google Wing Launching US Drone Deliveries with FedEx, Wal... by OrgNet on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:25PM (#21022478)
you sound like the NSA