Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by coliveira on Thursday September 19, 2019 @04:49PM
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Capitalism happens inside a framework of laws. There are strong laws against murdering your competitors, that's why this doesn't happen (nowadays). There is a whole set of unethical behaviors, however, that are commonly used for the goal of producing a profit.
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Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by incompatible on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:50PM
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The laws are not generally part of capitalism, but imposed upon it to prevent various harmful activities. Pollution is an example: capitalism itself (the private ownership of the means of production) has no mechanism that could deal with it.
Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by lacampbell on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:59PM
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It absolutely has a mechanism - property damage
the private ownership of the means of production
Is there any reason you're using marxist terminology?
Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by owenmarshall on Thursday September 19, 2019 @07:32PM
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Pollution is nothing more than a negative externality.
People have measurably shorter lifespans due to coal emissions. We aren’t doing anything about that, so why do you think property will be treated any differently?
Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by incompatible on Thursday September 19, 2019 @07:13PM
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Property damage is a consequence, not a method of prevention? The damage won't necessarily happen at the place of origination.
I'm not sure why you say it's Marxist terminology. It's more or less what Wikipedia uses. Is there another definition that you'd prefer?
Re:Birds Are Vanishing from North America
by lacampbell on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:50PM
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What's your argument? You've so far told mecapitalism leads to terrible things happening in the name of growth unless there are laws against it, which there are, as 'capitalism exists inside a framework of laws'. Your own argument informs us that capitalism does not automatically mean environmental damage will occur.