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Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by jbri on Thursday January 13, 2011 @05:21PM (#2101580)
The lack of understanding about possible adverse effects of asbestos worries me...

Oh wait, it is actually pretty nasty stuff. Now, while the "20 years down the road" thing is a bit silly, a lack of understanding about potential adverse effects is a reason to investigate further, not to dismiss anyone who's cautious about it as paranoid.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by ellyagg on Thursday January 13, 2011 @05:47PM (#2101670)
Society's track record is pretty good, then. Deaths attributable to asbestos are extremely rare in the scheme of things. Sensational headlines and ambulance chasing lawyers fool our primitive brain's broken probabilistic reasoning circuitry into making bad risk assessments. Given the overwhelming improvement in health and lifespan due to new material development and widespread use, I'd say we've been consistently making the right trade-offs. So, yeah, I'm firmly in the "OP is being paranoid" camp.
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by juiceandjuice on Thursday January 13, 2011 @06:02PM (#2101727)
Extremely rare compared to what? Compared to the entire population of the United States? Maybe. Compared to the population of those directly and continuously exposed? Not so much. We don't use that much asbestos anymore for a reason, and it's not because we found something better to replace it.

I'm not advocating we abandon nanomaterial research by any means. I'm hoping that it's widespread use and adoption doesn't outpace research of it's effects on humans given it's similarities with asbestos.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by yummyfajitas on Thursday January 13, 2011 @06:42PM (#2101823)
Extremely rare compared to what? Compared to the entire population of the United States?

Compared to other health threats in the US. Before the 60's and 70's, Asbestosis was a minor concern except for people with occupational exposure (e.g. asbestos miners). Much bigger and more pressing issues were polio, malaria, measles, and the like.

Once we became rich and healthy enough to care about it, we dealt with it. It was hardly an unknown threat, just a minor one.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by juiceandjuice on Thursday January 13, 2011 @07:33PM (#2101956)
Yes, the dangers of Asbestos were limited to people exposed to asbestos. It was an occupational hazard, and the uses of asbestos were largely commercial and industrial in nature.

As such, Asbestos was never directly marketed to consumers. Asbestos exposure was also limited because it's relatively narrow scope of usefulness. Asbestos was never a cultural phenomenon.

The extremely wide range of usefulness of nanotech means that it will show up in everything everywhere. Of specific concern should be anything designed to be airborne or directly applied directly on somebody. The product in question directly matches that description. Furthermore, this product is aimed directly at consumers, and the article even mentions how it is about to "revolutionize everything", alluding to widespread adoption and use.

I'd hate for something like this to be plastered over keyboards, door knobs, floors and countertops, sunglasses, shoes, phones, surgical equipment, dishes and silverware, headphones, cosmetics, etc... Those are the targets for something like this. You know, things you touch and use every day.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by njharman on Thursday January 13, 2011 @11:39PM (#2102576)
Then take PCB's, or mercury and other hvy metal poisoning. Or radium (maybe a different radioactive) they use to paint on clock/watches to make them glow in the dark.
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by patrickk on Friday January 14, 2011 @06:49AM (#2103221)
"Or radium (maybe a different radioactive) they use to paint on clock/watches to make them glow in the dark."

You're thinking of tritium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_illumination

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by rgsteele on Friday January 14, 2011 @02:05PM (#2104947)
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by malbs on Thursday January 13, 2011 @06:45PM (#2101828)
I guess you'd be happy to break up asbestos sheeting with no breathing apparatus then? Or participate in loose-fibre insulation removal, again with no protection? We'll check in with you in 20 years and see how you're going.
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by yummyfajitas on Thursday January 13, 2011 @05:36PM (#2101633)
Huh? Asbestos has been known to be harmful for a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos#History_of_health_conc...

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by sudont on Thursday January 13, 2011 @05:49PM (#2101680)
Cigarettes, DDT, Agent Orange, radium, hormone-leaching plastics, certain pharmaceuticals, antibiotic-laced meat. All were known to be harmful and were subject to a cover up to promote consumption.

You can debate his example, but his point stands.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by billswift on Thursday January 13, 2011 @09:11PM (#2102233)
DDT, Agent Orange, "hormone-leaching" plastics are not harmful to people. Antibiotics in meats are only a problem to a small number of allergic people. Of course, if you are really a vegetable or insect, then I could see why you consider the first two to be threats.
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by cyrus_ on Thursday January 13, 2011 @09:30PM (#2102288)
Humans rely on vegetables and insects for survival. Overuse of antibiotics can lead to the development of high levels of resistance.
Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by jbri on Thursday January 13, 2011 @05:46PM (#2101665)
Are you suggesting that the health risks of asbestos were known when it started to become widely used?

If not, you missed the point of my comment.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by Vivtek on Thursday January 13, 2011 @06:36PM (#2101813)
That is, in fact, what he's saying, although it wasn't definitively shown. But clearly it was known to be a carcinogen when they built my high school in the early 70's, and yet they were still using it as a standard insulation and fireproofing material. I have lots of asbestos tape in my house, too.

Lead paint, though - there's a good one. Everybody knew you shouldn't drink it, but nobody suspected the dust was a problem. (Although Japan had already banned it by the 20's, if I recall correctly, while America was still merrily painting everything in sight with toxins).

And of course, the Romans didn't even know you shouldn't drink it. Although the benefits lead plumbing in Rome due to widespread availability of clean water almost certainly outweighed the costs of some stupider Romans.

Re:Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost ev... by dbrannan on Thursday January 13, 2011 @06:31PM (#2101804)
There are like 100 forms of asbestos with 6 types being extremely harmful. The manufactures started using the cheapest of the materials (which are extremely difficult to tell apart).

http://www.asbestos.com/asbestos/types.php