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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by m-p-3 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @11:48PM (#21013110)
As long as I can keep the TV offline to operate it I'm fine with it. The day it needs to be online to work is where I'll be seriously pissed enough that I'll return it without hesitation.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by Kaiyou on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:44AM (#21014715)
How can you be sure it's offline? Possibly it has wireless capabilities that work without your consent..
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by delfinom on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:00AM (#21015724)
How? By putting in cellular or sat connections in secret? Because the FCC would be very interested in someone selling unlabeled and unlicensed radio containing equipment.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by minitech on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:39AM (#21016021)
By connecting to open wi-fi, supposedly, maybe with the help of some kind of dark pattern: https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_ab...
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by gruez on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:53AM (#21016148)
Would it need to be labeled if they were plugging in a 5G pci-e/USB WAN module?
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by JohnFen on Thursday September 19, 2019 @11:57AM (#21017421)
Yes
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:20AM (#21015461)
You wrap it in tin foil
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by Kaiyou on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:21AM (#21015468)
It's a TV, wrapped in tinfoil you won't be able to see anything anymore.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:51AM (#21015648)
You could, but you need Star Trek materials:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials#Tr...

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by downtide on Thursday September 19, 2019 @06:14AM (#21014879)
We have a house without any Internet connection - that would require at least a mobile link.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by tjoff on Thursday September 19, 2019 @07:19AM (#21015174)
Don't worry, in a few years they will have their own sim card and network.

This behavior is despicable and we must not accept it just because "I wouldn't connect the network cable/wifi anyway". Because one day that isn't an option and by then it is already too late.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by downtide on Friday September 20, 2019 @03:50PM (#21030526)
They are missing a trick with peer to peer piggy backs.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by giancarlostoro on Thursday September 19, 2019 @07:16AM (#21015161)
You can see what devices are connected to your router for one. Also not if you: factory reset or change the password.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by ses1984 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:36AM (#21015554)
No open wifi networks nearby.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by everdrive on Thursday September 19, 2019 @09:26AM (#21015914)
Which could be impossible in a dense city with Xfinity access points.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by tekknik on Sunday September 22, 2019 @09:39AM (#21041301)
Aren’t Xfinity APs only for Xfinity subscribers? I doubt they’re just wide open. Now if a TV manufacturer struck a deal with an ISP and gave it its own access point to join...
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by cm2187 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @03:50AM (#21014206)
Like Sonos did. And I did what you said. Into the trash can.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by rsync on Thursday September 19, 2019 @11:44AM (#21017285)
Sonos needs to be called out for the dramatic disparity between how they present their products and what those products actually do.

Their userbase is almost universally clueless as to what it is these devices are doing and what the goals of Sonos, as a company, must be.

They should have been one of the good ones - and I had such enthusiasm for their products - but they have proven to be very, very antagonistic towards their users.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by TheHegemon on Thursday September 19, 2019 @12:07PM (#21017562)
Wait, what is Sonos doing that am I missing?
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by cm2187 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @12:58PM (#21018120)
Force you to register and login or they brick your device. Stuff a recording device connecting to amazon in what should otherwise be a speaker.
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