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Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by gumby on Monday September 16, 2019 @06:19PM (#20989114)
> the fact that the pool of [all consumers' discretionary income they'd be willing to spend] is likely a small fraction of the size of [all commercial companies' marketing budgets].

I don't understand this statement. The companies marketing to people with discretionary income presumably get their revenues from that discretionary income. So mathematically their marketing budget would have to be smaller than the revenue from these people.

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by dangrossman on Monday September 16, 2019 @06:25PM (#20989165)
> presumably get their revenues from that discretionary income

This is where you made a mistake. Their revenues comes from spending on necessities, not from discretionary income. Proctor & Gamble's $7 billion a year in advertising is coming from our buying soap and laundry detergent and toilet paper, not what you have left over for movie tickets. The $30 billion a year in medical marketing is coming from insulin and blood pressure pills, not your Netflix subscription. Most consumer spending is on necessities (food, housing, car payment, health/auto/home insurance, mortgage interest, fuel, etc) and those companies do the bulk of the advertising. People cannot choose to spend that money tipping websites instead unless they stop eating, stop taking medication, etc.

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by austhrow743 on Monday September 16, 2019 @09:09PM (#20990204)
I don't think that distinction is precise enough for this. Sure soap is a necessity, but if you buy some premium fancy soap from P&G that had a lot of marketing budget contributing to its high cost rather than the supermarket brand plain soap, then plenty of that soap money was discretionary.
Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by dangrossman on Monday September 16, 2019 @09:34PM (#20990348)
This extra precision doesn't change anything. None of the proposed alternative monetization schemes have suggested you buy a cheaper brand of soap so that you can put another nickel of discretionary income into tipping websites. Even some of the money you spend on the generic store brand ends up in someone's marketing budget.
Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by savanaly on Monday September 16, 2019 @06:22PM (#20989139)
By [all consumers' discretionary income they'd be willing to spend] I think the parent meant [all consumers' discretionary income they'd be willing to spend on web content] which is obviously a subset of all their discretionary income. Marketers are peddling tangible useful items, and people will pay a lot more for that than for the ability to read given words on the internet.