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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by codeulike on Monday September 16, 2019 @07:02AM (#20982860)
I think you're mixing up ICE and electric, which is a mistake. You might have a point about ICE, but there's a ton of hardware improvements to come for EVs.

>Most car companies only have a handful of 'platforms' on which they build various models.

Yeah and VW just spent years creating a completely new platform for EVs. Everyone else is going to need to do that in the next decade or so as well.

> [Teslas] electric drivetrain is at point where there is more for them to gain in software than improvement of the hardware.

Tesla are continuously coming up with hardware changes. Models S and X moved to a completely new 'Raven' drivetrain just back in April.

Alongside that, they do try and find software fixes to improve the existing fleet, which I guess is what you're thinking about.

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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by benj111 on Monday September 16, 2019 @08:40AM (#20983436)
Just to add to this, ICE cars have been though all the experiments about front wheel/ rear wheel drive, front engine, rear engine, air cooled/ water cooled. Those choices are up for reevaluation, plus a few more (how many motors). Its possible that Teslas choice of motor and battery layout will look as outdated as running boards in 30 years time.
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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by HNLurker2 on Monday September 16, 2019 @07:41AM (#20983070)
>Alongside that, they do try and find software fixes to improve the existing fleet,

I would be scared if a software engineer would make the OS to confirm that I want to brake

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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by pjc50 on Monday September 16, 2019 @08:12AM (#20983256)
ABS has been under software control for years. So long as the safety-critical stuff stays off the CAN bus, everything's fine.
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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by codeulike on Monday September 16, 2019 @07:56AM (#20983162)
Brakes and steering remain mechanical

edit: mainly I was thinking of Tesla here. obv there are exceptions

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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by BrentOzar on Monday September 16, 2019 @08:01AM (#20983187)
> Brakes and steering remain mechanical

The Infiniti Q50 has been steer-by-wire since 2014[1], and hybrids like the Toyota Prius have been brake-by-wire since 2010.[2]

[1]: https://gizmodo.com/what-its-like-to-drive-infinitis-crazy-d... [2]: https://www.thedrive.com/tech/25563/the-audi-e-tron-brings-g...

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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by LeonM on Monday September 16, 2019 @08:07AM (#20983228)
Nope, steer-by-wire is already a thing.

The Infiniti Q50 has it, its steering wheel is not mechanically attached to the wheels.

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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by kozak on Monday September 16, 2019 @11:45AM (#20985236)
Electronic brakeforce distribution means that when the ABS module is not working, the car will brake worse than the same car with no ABS and purely mechanical brakeforce distribution.
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Re:Volkswagen’s plan to create a new car operating system by codeulike on Monday September 16, 2019 @03:39PM (#20987800)
Better than nothing though
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