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Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by dogecoinbase on Sunday September 15, 2019 @10:55PM (#20980758)
This is exactly correct. The purpose of DoH is two-fold; for Google, to allow themselves to be the endpoint DNS resolver so they can both bypass local ad blocking and collect statistical behavioral data (I am aware that their policy does not permit them to do this; it will certainly not be the first time Google violates their stated policies in the mission of serving advertisements), and for e.g. Cloudflare, to centralize and control additional pieces of previously-distributed Internet infrastructure (and thus permit centralized monitoring not if but when they are compelled or subverted by the intelligence community).

Mozilla I don't understand. The most likely explanation appears to be that they are still in a catch-up-to-Chrome mindset, which is a disservice to themselves and their community.

DNS queries should be encrypted. Centralization-by-default is not the answer and people should look more closely at the incentives in play by those pushing the DoH standard. I appreciate the efforts of e.g. OpenBSD to prevent this side-channel leakage of user data to private corporations: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20190911113856

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by paulcarroty on Monday September 16, 2019 @03:27AM (#20981796)
> Mozilla I don't understand.

Mozilla also send tons of users data to Google, and, probably, gets money/better contracts/other benefits.

Proof: https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/11658588961766604...

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by crankylinuxuser on Monday September 16, 2019 @12:13AM (#20981038)
A good DoH feature is that it distrusts the local network's services in favor of ones on the local device. Especially with Comcast, Verizon and others doing bad stuff with traffic, not trusting the network providers looks like a good thing.

Ideally one could change to any range of DoH resolvers - right now there's 3 or so.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by mtsr on Monday September 16, 2019 @02:02AM (#20981475)
DoT and running your own recursive resolver is better still.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by Moru on Monday September 16, 2019 @03:38AM (#20981862)
Or if you work at an ISP, set up an alternative DNS that users can opt out of, for blocking telemetry for everyone except those that really wants it. Invert the playfield so to speak.