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Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by journalctl on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:29PM (#20979838)
I think we need laws.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by Angostura on Monday September 16, 2019 @07:27AM (#20982998)
Take a look at GDPR
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by jakeogh on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:50PM (#20979920)
I vote with my money. Laws are lazy, trivial to insert exploits into and stacked with unintended consequences. Eduication is much more effective.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by liability on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:55PM (#20979942)
Passing laws is pragmatic. Individual boycotts are idealistic, they go totally unnoticed and the status quo continues.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by jakeogh on Sunday September 15, 2019 @06:59PM (#20979961)
The "status quo" argument of apathy is self-fulfilling. There are few things that are more effective than market forces, hence the 24x7x365 war for your opinion.

Note how often people say "insert law here". Compare that with how many times they actually propose the text of a law. Our most effective laws are exceptionally simple and short. It's not accidental that "modern" laws are intractably complex.

How about try it? Propose the law.

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by liability on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @02:44PM (#21008601)
Some people, dare I say most people, care more about results than dogmatic adherence to libertarian free market ideology. That is why effective regulation is everywhere you look. Regulation is popular and effective, regardless of how badly it offends your sensibilities.
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by jakeogh on Friday September 20, 2019 @03:52AM (#21024186)
Or? Is it in theory possible that your preception of reality is off?

Government regulation of the net (aka speech) is a non-starter, so the people who think "insert rule" fixes something are forced to rebrand it to "net betterness". More than half of the general public is wise to these techniques.

What "pragmatic" law do you have in mind?

Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by liability on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:40PM (#21033343)
Government regulation of businesses that happen to have websites (aka 'regulation of the net') is already reality. Pretty far from a "non-starter"
Re:HP printers try to send data back to HP about your device... by jakeogh on Sunday September 22, 2019 @01:15AM (#21039796)
Surely you have atleast a sketch of the law in mind?