Re:China is increasingly using exit bans to bar Americans fr...
by wonnage on Sunday September 15, 2019 @03:26PM
(#20979014)
How does one mention Gitmo and forget about it in the very next sentence???
Re:China is increasingly using exit bans to bar Americans fr...
by JumpCrisscross on Sunday September 15, 2019 @08:07PM
(#20980211)
> How does one mention Gitmo and forget about it in the very next sentence?
One doesn’t. Gitmo is a black eye on our judicial system.
But there is a difference between a widely-debated exception and a generally-accepted baseline. Gitmo is abnormal in America. It is a baseline for Xi’s regime.
Re:China is increasingly using exit bans to bar Americans fr...
by NotSammyHagar on Sunday September 15, 2019 @11:24PM
(#20980848)
Excellent point. It's horrible and needs to become regular court based but it's an exception, not the standard. I still hate that it happens in my country.
Re:China is increasingly using exit bans to bar Americans fr...
by lordlimecat on Sunday September 15, 2019 @09:47PM
(#20980520)
By noting that gitmo is legally controversial, has a bunch of asterisks next to what can happen there (afaik they cannot send people on US soil there), and it's been used on a grand total of 800 "enemy combatants" In the last 20 years.
It is in every sense an anomaly, and is not even remotely comparable to what is discussed here.
Source?
For your passport to be surrendered, you need to be charged with a crime. Being related to the accused isn’t a crime. (The black eye that is Guantanamo notwithstanding.)
More critically, many of these people have been charged with nothing. No process is pending. They are held with no next steps. There is simply no analog for this behaviour in countries with the rule of law, whether that be Taiwan or Japan or Germany or the United States.