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Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by donretag on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:00PM (#20972129)
"Commission per hire: 15% of annual salary"

So basically getting the same fee as a normal recruiter, without them doing any of the work.

Lower fees will attract more companies. For the standard recruiter fee, I rather just use a firm.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by rohan1024 on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:02PM (#20972138)
They are claiming to pre-screen candidates which in case of remote job I think is not a bad idea.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by bitL on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:05PM (#20972588)
So, another TopTal without the Top?
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by BorisBorisov91 on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:03PM (#20972968)
RemoteMore is for remote employment, with TopTal you get pretty much only freelancing.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by bitL on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:58PM (#20973325)
AFAIK TopTal is mostly remote freelancing, often matching Silicon Valley to Eastern European programmers (not possible unless remote).
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by BorisBorisov91 on Sunday September 15, 2019 @02:27AM (#20975877)
Sorry, that was what I meant - TopTal is about remote freelancing. But it is not about long-term remote jobs. Getting projects from time to time fits some people, but some people will prefer to work with one company for the long-run, a d that's what RemoteMore is about.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by bitL on Sunday September 15, 2019 @01:35PM (#20978363)
It's much easier to do remote freelancing/contracting/consulting than employment. For employment the target company has to incorporate in employee's country or you need to have a branch that acts as an intermediary; not sure if you won't be on a legally shaky ground and forced to accept the programmers you connected as your own employees.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by hartator on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:22PM (#20972294)
How do you pre-screen people to get if they will be a good fit for remote?
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by phreack on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:35PM (#20973194)
Well, that would be their value add. I've been working remotely for over 5 years and anecdotally I'd say there are quite a few characteristics you could evaluate to get a feel of how good someone would be for remote. Some of them I'd say would be asking for how they've worked before, what their daily schedules are like, how they've handled communication, how often they respond to the screening process and such before getting into actual work knowledge.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by ben_jones on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:31PM (#20972361)
IMO you’d look for time management and communication skills as well as a strong sense of self-assessment and independent decision making.
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by dudul on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:56PM (#20972532)
Note that the comment you're replying to asked How, not what do you screen for. How do you screen for the skills you've outlined?
Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by ben_jones on Saturday September 14, 2019 @05:49PM (#20974053)
Thanks for pointing it out, and ya its really hard to do. I think you identify certain signals and do the best you can in your interview process to flesh them out, for example:

1) History of working remotely successfully in the past

2) Strong verbal or written communication skills, i.e. ability to explain complex ideas concisely or to break down large ideas into consumable smaller ones.

3) Higher education background, indicating the ability to push through benign task and consistently reach performance goals (c's get degrees)

4) Aligned long term-goals for example, engineer foo wants to hit a certain salary level by gaining an expertise in $tech_x, and at the same time your company has domain experience in $tech_x that could facilitate for your employer

5) Ability to break down past projects in the context of "how would you do it differently with a do-over" or "what are some examples where you mismanaged technical debt"

None of these ideas are perfect, and execution in the interview is perhaps the hardest part. I myself am a college drop out which makes it ironic that I would suggest people with degrees make for better remote workers, but when it becomes a search for signals a degree from certain tiers of universities is too hard to pass up as a hiring manager who just wants to do a good job.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by BorisBorisov91 on Sunday September 15, 2019 @02:31AM (#20975891)
OP here - ^ that's one very good a answer!

Yes, pretty much like that. I wrote one long reply in this thread on what we're looking for and it is about the same as this post above.

I would qdd to it that experience with working remotely successfully is a great predictor, but it leaves out the candidates that have not worked out remotely so far. In that case, the focus becomes on the other indicators.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by BorisBorisov91 on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:06PM (#20972174)
The recruiter fees start at 20%, and they are usually 30%+.

Also, with our service, the companies get instant access to lots of pre-screened developers, which they don't with recruiters.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by donretag on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:14PM (#20972246)
Pre-screening is nice, but not much of a value add. Sourcing candidates is the hard part, and this service can only present the candidates that have entered profiles. No outreach, no advertising at any level.

Perhaps C-levels are 20%, or maybe in the Bay Area, but the standard elsewhere is 15%.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by ska on Saturday September 14, 2019 @07:09PM (#20974443)
fwiw 15% is really low in my experience, across a range of locations and hiring at all levels . More common would be 1/4 or 1/3 1st year salary, with 3mo trigger (or clawback)

Of course YMMV.

Re:Show HN: RemoteMore – We connect developers with full-tim... by bwb on Saturday September 14, 2019 @05:59PM (#20974111)
I am in CO, ~30% is pretty standard for anything in tech.