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Re:The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving by berdon on Friday September 13, 2019 @02:53PM (#20965179)
Your strawman is implying I was trying to refute CICO. I never said that - I said people don't count all the outputs.
Re:The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving by partialrecall on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:14PM (#20965369)
It was not my intention to strawman you. I apologize for misreading your intent.
Re:The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving by bena on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:31PM (#20966179)
Don't apologize. Regardless of his intent, he claimed

"I've lost weight eating 900 calories/day and I've lost weight eating 3500 calories/day with the same level of exercise. The difference was the 900 were carbs, the 3500 was >90% protein"

And if you're not trying to refute CICO, you better make damn clear that even though you're ingesting 3500 calories, you're essentially just crapping out most of it because our bodies can't process that much protein at once.

Re:The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving by berdon on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:50PM (#20966387)
Wording is hard.

I've tracked calories for >10 years and macros for >5 years. And, at the time I spoke about, I was taking in protein continuously and meticulously tracking ingestion rate and time and estimating digested and excreted protein levels. But, even still, obviously I was shitting out most of it.

I actually do believe and advocate for CICO for most people. But I reject notions that anything related to the body is black, white, or simple and hold strongly to them as convictions. I tried to provide examples to those points with the last as an example that the C in CICO is a sneaky misnomer and better served as being an E. It's just that in the general case for most people E averages into C.

I do agree with you on the apology - it's the internet, no one expects an apology and if you do you're insane. Furthermore, I wasn't offended and was only pointing out the rhetorical tactic being employed.

Re:The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving by AstralStorm on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:42AM (#20969126)
It's super rare though that anyone in the world not on a special diet consumes this much protein. That's really hard, volumetrically, as protein is calorie sparse. Which is why it's useful for dieting, to keep volume and water in while keeping caloric content low. (With potential side benefits for satiety.)