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Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by headcanon on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:22PM (#20964204)
I hate it too, but its clearly profitable - people want to watch football and spend money on tickets and merchandise, and universities ended up being a good vehicle to drive fanbases. Its not realistic to ask people to not want to be football fans and not spend money on that interest, and not realistic to ask universities to not take that money.

The most realistic potential improvement I can see is requiring public universities to reinvest some percentage of sports program profits (mostly coming from football/basketball in the US) back into academic programs and tuition assistance for non-athletes. Currently many unversities have academics and sports existing in separate financial universes.

Edit: The same universities do reinvest football/basketball profits back into other sports programs, which is great. Athleticism in general is IMO an essential part of education. But universities need to remember their core mission is education, and everything that a university does needs to feed that mission somehow.

Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by partialrecall on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:28PM (#20964271)
> "I hate it too, but its clearly profitable"

That's not clear to me. Google tells me there are nearly 800 university football teams in America. Alabama is obviously top-tier and is doubtlessly profitable. But how many of the other hundreds are profitable?

Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by headcanon on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:34PM (#20964337)
The statement was scoped to NCAA Division 1 schools, which I imagine all have profitable football programs. However most of those also happen to be top-tier academic and research schools as well (there are of course exceptions), so I'm comfortable scoping the conversation to those schools.
Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by partialrecall on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:42PM (#20964413)
Well as I said previously, I take issue with the scheme as a whole.

Furthermore, don't many players, coaches, etc, transfer up from lower divisions when they demonstrate themselves to have exceptional merit? It's not clear to me that Division 1 wouldn't be impacted if the lower divisions were eliminated. If that's true, then lower divisions are effectively subsidizing higher divisions, so it's a mistake to consider the matter on a case by case basis rather than holistically.

Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by eitally on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:19PM (#20965412)
No. It's rare for players to transfer up. In fact, the ones that do transfer are usually the ones who do have professional prospects but aren't currently projected as lottery pics (and some who are, like Jalen Hurts transferring from Alabama to Oklahoma).
Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by Rebelgecko on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:06PM (#20965309)
For players, there's some transfers but I certainly wouldn't say "many"
Re:Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for... by eitally on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:17PM (#20965400)
I don't think that's necessarily true. It's true for the Big 5 "Power" conferences because they negotiate enormous media contracts, but if you're a mid-major school in a 2nd or 3rd tier city, and especially if you're not a consistent winner, I think profitability is a very high bar.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidching/2018/04/17/big-tens-...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/espn-reaches...

On that latter deal with ESPN, note that the $470m/yr ESPN pays for the CFP games is relatively in the same ballpark as the NFL rights for Monday Night Football games ($600m/yr).