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Re:California bans private prisons by js8 on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:29PM (#20958933)
"Law enforcement unions are one of the few American institutions with completely bipartisan protection. Democrats don't go after them because Democrats are pro-union. Republicans don't go after them because Republicans are pro-police."

Perhaps your "democracy" needs more than 2 parties.

"What happens if police officers and prison guards go on strike?"

The American culture is very antagonistic. In democratic societies, which are less antagonistic, this would become a matter of new public consensus much sooner before they would go on actual strike (there are many forms of strike and some of them do not involve stopping all work, for example, work-to-rule).

Re:California bans private prisons by PorterDuff on Friday September 13, 2019 @12:59AM (#20959296)
"The American culture is very antagonistic. In democratic societies, which are less antagonistic, this would become a matter of new public consensus much sooner before they would go on actual strike"

Like France?

Re:California bans private prisons by js8 on Friday September 13, 2019 @02:38AM (#20959744)
I think France is kind of odd because yes, they do strike a lot, but usually the public approval of the striking is quite high. So it is less antagonistic in this sense.

I live in Europan country with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartism, and that's one option how to make things less antagonistic. There is lot of negotiations going on before the strike happens, and it mostly gets averted.

Re:California bans private prisons by baud147258 on Friday September 13, 2019 @05:27AM (#20960511)
In France most of the strikes come from the public sector. And I'm pretty sure the public approval for the strikes depends if it affects them: if you'd poll people living in Paris about the current public transportation strike, I don't think you'd see a lot of support.
Re:California bans private prisons by ende on Friday September 13, 2019 @12:28PM (#20963563)
You are correct that the US needs a multi-party system. The lack of recognition/appreciation of the extent that the two-party system shapes and constrains every single public discourse such as this one is frankly amazing.

The current dynamic is akin to children playing one feuding parent against the other in a broken overly-adversarial marriage. You need a minimum of about 4-5 independent voices in order to facilitate civil public discourse.

Re:California bans private prisons by yug_blop on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:28PM (#20964266)
> You need a minimum of about 4-5 independent voices in order to facilitate civil public discourse.

Has this been demonstrated through mathematical/statistical models?

Re:California bans private prisons by philwelch on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:35PM (#20958966)
Our politics are antagonistic, and that makes everything harder for sure. For that matter, so are our police!
Re:California bans private prisons by rconti on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:16PM (#20965390)
But the US has relatively few strikes despite being so 'antagonistic'.