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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by jra101 on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @10:16PM (#2094765)
The annoying thing is even the Nexus One comes with preinstalled apps that you cannot remove.

Specifically: Amazon MP3, Twitter, and Facebook.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by 37prime on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @10:19PM (#2094778)
Twitter was pre-installed on Nexus One? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing it out of the Box.

As for as default Facebook installation and integration is a bad idea. I really hate that.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by jra101 on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @11:04PM (#2094888)
I got mine just before Android 2.2 came out (I got the 2.2 OTA update right after pulling it out of the box) and it definitely did have Twitter.
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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by jra101 on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @11:21PM (#2094936)
Aah, it was 2.2 that added Twitter to the base OS:

http://support.twitter.com/groups/34-mobile/topics/125-troub...

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by steveklabnik on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @10:39PM (#2094830)
I purchased a Nexus One shortly after launch, and it did not come with Twitter installed. In fact, the Twitter app didn't exist then.

I _did_ however do a hard reset the other day (ugh...) and all of my stuff was gone. Twitter, Amazon, and Angry Birds Holiday seemed to still be there...

But looking at my phone now, a bunch of other apps that I had downloaded are back, mysteriously. I dunno.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by drivebyacct2 on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @11:51PM (#2095025)
It's a feature. No, really. When you sync your Google account, it redownloads your apps.
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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by steveklabnik on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @09:23AM (#2096200)
That's pretty awesome. I guess it happens in the background?
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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by whatusername on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @12:07AM (#2095073)
Call me back when I can remove Stocks or Notes or Weather from iOS.

At least I would use 2 of those 3.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by 37prime on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @01:53AM (#2095269)
Those are not carrier specific apps. The reason why they are there because there were no installable apps at that time. I do not need to sign in to any services or accounts to use those apps.

Amazon MP3, Facebook apps are tied to some services that requires user accounts.

One pre-installed app on iOS that fit the category is YouTube App.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by rmc on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @05:45AM (#2095669)
The reason why they are there because there were no installable apps at that time.

So now that there are installable apps, they can be removed, right? No they can't.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by foobarbazoo on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @06:04AM (#2095712)
They can't be removed because there is no way to get them back. (They are not available in the App Store.)

Yes, this could (and should) be fixed. And someday, perhaps, it will be. For now, it's just not a serious problem, outside of Hacker News.

Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by jrockway on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @06:06AM (#2095724)
Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.

Because Apple wants you to use SMS instead of IM, making the carriers a boatload of money for no reason.

That is exactly the kind of shit Apple does.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by rahoulb on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @07:18AM (#2095889)
It's not Apple that wants you to use SMS - it's EVERYONE.

I bought my first mobile over twelve years ago because of SMS, not voice, as it replaced the pagers that me and my friends had.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by whatusername on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @08:22PM (#2098406)
God no it's not.

Apple's SMS implementation/interface is terrible. Group Messaging is just broken.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by younata on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @01:36AM (#2095241)
Weather and Notes are pretty awesome.

I wouldn't use Amazon mp3 nor facebook, so, meh.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by whatusername on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @08:29PM (#2098427)
Weather gives me way different results to the BOM: http://www.bom.gov.au So I don't trust it at all.

Notes is okay - but I prefer simplenote.

I also don't use the contacts app (you can get at contacts through the Phone icon) but I understand that people might want to use it.

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by thewordis on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @10:22AM (#2096385)
The Nexus S doesn't have those apps by default. It seems the only pre-installed apps I can't remove are from Google, like Google Voice.
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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by alexmat on Wednesday January 12, 2011 @12:40AM (#2095133)
You can remove them using Titanium Backup or something similar if you have root:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/titanium-backup-%E2%98%85-root/c...

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Re:Apple will not allow Verizon to preload software on iPhone by d2viant on Tuesday January 11, 2011 @10:31PM (#2094803)
I don't own one, so I'm not sure -- but couldn't you just reflash it with the downloadable Android?
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