Oh of course it didn't start with Trump, or Obama, or GWB, and so on, but my point is that while those on the left consider themselves more righteous than those on the right (a reasonable belief), at the same time most seem utterly incapable of seeing that their leaders are also playing a game largely based on deceit. It's not unreasonable at all to say you have to fight fire with fire, but that so many find it uninteresting and unimportant that our entire (both sides) political process essentially consists of lies and misrepresentations just seems very odd to me.