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Re:An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration by avocado4 on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @01:04AM (#20936716)
Sadly Canadian points-based system is a non starter with Democrats and some nativist Republicans in the US.
Re:An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration by josv on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @10:07AM (#20940355)
Worth clarifying in case you're unfamiliar with the Canadian system: There is a points-based program for economic migration, but there are also other immigration avenues (e.g. family reunification) and appeal processes (e.g. based on established connection to Canada) that are not points based.

(In 2018, just over half of immigration to Canada was via points system, with 28% and 14% family reunification and refugees respectively. [0])

The points based system isn't a panacea. As a Canadian, I see it as a tradeoff: I dislike the fact that it makes access to Canada easier for the wealthy and privileged, but it's transparent and predictable and (hopefully) aligned with the skills that help immigrants succeed.

I'm no expert, but there are other differences you could look at. For example, having family in your community is a strong predictor of economic success for immigrants, so if you really care about successful integration, you might want to prioritize family reunification. It feels like the Canadian and US discourse on this have started to diverge. ("chain migration"?)

In any case, a complicated topic. [1] I certainly don't know what system is best. But I feel it's a bit reductive to only focus on the point-based aspect.

[0] https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/ca... [1] https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...

Re:An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration by aledalgrande on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @01:27AM (#20936835)
You just have to hope that the new generation is better...
Re:An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration by devoply on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @01:56AM (#20936976)
It's very possible that left wing social liberalism has jumped the shark and hard core right wing social conservatism is on the menu going forward. Evidence for this is Trump, states passing ridiculous abortion laws, nativism, etc. That we are switching from the Dionysian to the Apollonian.