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Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by jcampbell1 on Monday September 09, 2019 @05:37PM (#20922726)
The one that will actually get them in trouble is running ads on top of navigational queries to a trademarked brand.

Here is Jason Fried of Basecamp openly accusing Google of a shakedown racket: https://twitter.com/jasonfried/status/1168986962704982016

Of the 100,000 or so people that actually give $2,700 to political candidates, I'd think this is their biggest gripe with Google, and likely the issue that is going to cause Google the most problems.

The more interesting thing to me is how quickly goodwill just expires. Google search is among mankind's greatest achievements in the past century, along with the free gifts of quality email, youtube, android, etc. It is an interesting thought experiment of how to keep a brand burnished in the eyes of the public given goodwill decays so rapidly.

Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by body12 on Monday September 09, 2019 @05:53PM (#20922891)
Google Search has gotten worse in the past few years in my opinion. It seems biased towards newly published content and content from the top 100 sites or so. Before it felt like you were grepping the internet, but now it feels like you're at an airport newsstand. It will frequently re-write your queries for you if you are searching for uncommon things, and putting it in quotes doesn't always fix it.
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by a_f on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @05:06AM (#20926335)
Have you seen Google Image search recently? They have updated it such that when you click on an image to select/expand in view, the selection is now presented in the top right hand side of the page. But the selection is not floating with your scrolling - so selecting anything below the fold means you end up scrolling back and forth between the top of the page and your previous position. Honestly not sure why they changed it. Terrible.
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by non-entity on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @08:42AM (#20927522)
Using image search on mobile is a truly a painful experience
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by rhexs on Monday September 09, 2019 @09:42PM (#20924402)
I've stopped using Google for searching for various generic terms and instead search nearly everything as site:reddit.com 2019 "search term".

Sometimes I get mildly useful information that stands out from the page after page of pagerank gamed garbage.

Now, searching reddit.com for solutions has other issues (notably using Reddit on iOS via Safari, is, as of 9/2019, almost entirely impossible), but that's where I'm at currently.

Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by shkkmo on Monday September 09, 2019 @07:39PM (#20923716)
There are many searches that have so much SEO optimized crap content in the results that it is impossible to find any actually useful content.
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by insulanus on Monday September 09, 2019 @07:04PM (#20923469)
Yes, they changed how search works - try using "google verbatim" for the old behavior.
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by darpa_escapee on Monday September 09, 2019 @06:24PM (#20923147)
The worst is the blog spam that reaches the top of Google's search results.

I don't think it's a coincidence that those poor quality results are given precedence when they also happen to be littered with, and optimized for, Adsense ads.

Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by jedberg on Monday September 09, 2019 @09:28PM (#20924321)
Amusingly, at least for me, a search for [basecamp] now gives me no ads.
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by HillaryBriss on Monday September 09, 2019 @09:31PM (#20924349)
> ... the issue that is going to cause Google the most problems

I am certainly biased because I seem to see more negative HN Google comments than positive ones. But, I'm starting to wonder if taking money from Google will cause politicians problems in 2020. Will we see candidates bashing each other for being too cozy with Google? Could taking Google money even become a third rail?

Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by HillaryBriss on Wednesday September 11, 2019 @07:34PM (#20945928)
And Cal AG Xavier Becerra is a test case: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20944284
Re:50 U.S. states and territories announce broad antitrust i... by buboard on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @02:56AM (#20925714)
Would be more effective if he titled it "Dont click this ad | Click the first organic result below"