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Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by johnmaguire2013 on Monday September 09, 2019 @10:08AM (#20918292)
> Python core dev pretended Python 3 was good and ready by, like, 3.1. It wasn't.

I would expect any stable release of software to be "good and ready." Can you explain what was wrong with Python 3.0 and 3.1?

> core dev did not listen to any of the problems people pointed out for _years_

What problems were those?

Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by ben509 on Monday September 09, 2019 @01:22PM (#20920140)
A major, breaking issue[1] was how Python 3 handled missing LC_* variables. By default, a Python script would simply crash with any non-ASCII input or output. It was fixed[2] in 3.5[3].

[1]: https://bugs.python.org/issue19977

[2]: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0540/

[3]: https://docs.python.org/release/3.5.0/whatsnew/3.5.html

Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by mixmastamyk on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:24AM (#20919004)
There were very few new features, only breaking changes. With the exception of Unicode defaults which few yet understood.
Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by kortilla on Monday September 09, 2019 @10:16AM (#20918378)
Strings in python3 were terrible for memory well into mid-3. Raymond Hettinger is a core dev and he recently stated on Twitter that he didn’t feel py3 was a clear upgrade win until this most current release.
Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by zurtex on Monday September 09, 2019 @11:02AM (#20918820)
Raymond has been consistent in saying Python 3.6.1 was the release where Python 3 became better than Python 2. That was March 21, 2017, and we're now in Python 3.7.4.

I appreciate the general point that that's far more recent than Python 3s initial release but it's also a large exaggeration to say "until this most current release".

Also to understand why it took so long is because Python 2 kept improving after Python 3s release. Python 2.7 was a great release and many further features from Python 3 got backported in it's 2.7.x point release.

Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by kortilla on Monday September 09, 2019 @09:44PM (#20924413)
Sorry, I misremembered. 3.8 is the first one he said is a clear winner: https://twitter.com/raymondh/status/1167218640095043586
Re:Sunsetting Python 2 by loeg on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @03:43AM (#20925932)
2017 is a lot more recent than 2008 (Py 3.0).