Malicious attack on Wikipedia – what we know and what we’re doing

Re:Malicious attack on Wikipedia – what we know and what we’... by hombre_fatal on Saturday September 07, 2019 @12:58PM (#20904990)

I don't see why you'd come up with something that so misaligns the interests of everyone except lawyers.

Instead, imagine the DDoS landscape if we had to pay a small price for bandwidth. There would be a natural disincentive to having a toaster saturating your bandwidth as part of a botnet because it would quickly show up on your bill. And something as simple as shipping an IoT product or Rasberry Pi with bad default username/password might suffer bad reviews like "1/5 stars, this product immediately raised my internet bill."

I know it's not perfect and most of us have a bad taste in our mouth from paying out the wazoo when bandwidth is priced per Gb, but it can be a fair system if priced well that fights against our botnet reality where we basically have zero insight when our networked devices our compromised.

I can also imagine better tooling provided by our ISPs in this world where they help us track down and itemize our bandwidth costs. "Honey, why is SmartToaster89 costing us $24 in network fees?"

It's impressive how poorly our current system equips everyone except malicious actors. How many ISPs don't even filter spoofed outbound packets?

It's hard to complain about everyone centralizing around Cloudflare with the state of cheap DDoS muscle.

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Re:Malicious attack on Wikipedia – what we know and what we’... by master-litty on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:04PM (#20905037)

I don't see why you'd come up with something that so misaligns the interests of everyone except Comcast :)

We don't need to be priced by the bandwidth, we just need better accessibility to metering. Something my mother could look at and say "huh, the toaster's sent 8gb of data today..."

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Re:Malicious attack on Wikipedia – what we know and what we’... by johncolanduoni on Saturday September 07, 2019 @09:22PM (#20907931)

If you’re not charged for it and it’s not enough for you to feel reduced performance on your other devices, why would you even both looking?

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Re:Malicious attack on Wikipedia – what we know and what we’... by master-litty on Sunday September 08, 2019 @09:05AM (#20910334)

It would consume more electricity, though let's assume by a marginal amount.

I suspect many people are uncomfortable holding a compromised device like that. The unpredictability of a toaster helping to take down Wikipedia is wild and potentially seen as a sign of chaos, especially for less technical users.

Who knows what else this crazy toaster will do next? Will it do the same thing again?

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