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Re:Workers Are Fleeing Big Cities for Small Ones, and Taking... by entropea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:22AM (#20903910)
>I think the biggest evil of suburbs is the commute. I think part of the reason there's no social activity in suburbs is because, honestly, who wants to do anything after spending an hour in traffic after getting off your 8-5 job and knowing you need to be out the door by 6:30 the next day?

Takes me an hour+ to get home 6 miles outside of the city (still in the City, but not downtown) on the bus. Not a great argument you have there unless you ignore everyone that isn't privileged enough to live in the city downtown proper.

Re:Workers Are Fleeing Big Cities for Small Ones, and Taking... by fiblye on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:45AM (#20904045)
It also depends on the city. I can travel 30KM in 15 minutes on a train, or drive that distance in 2 hours if I’m lucky.

Many cities are planned well and easy to get around. But this isn’t really true for most American cities. Although if you’re working in a city and living outside of it, you’re almost certainly wasting more time than anyone in it during your commute.

Re:Workers Are Fleeing Big Cities for Small Ones, and Taking... by entropea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @12:05PM (#20904616)
I dream for an American city with public transit as good as some European countries. Hopefully some infrastructure projects will come through, but I really don't see it happening any time soon with the amount of corporate lobbying making sure everything stays exactly the same: profits for oil.
Re:Workers Are Fleeing Big Cities for Small Ones, and Taking... by perl4ever on Sunday September 08, 2019 @12:18AM (#20908578)
You can go 30 km on a train that travels over 120 km/hr and still be in the same city?

I just wouldn't take a job where I have to commute 2 hours. I don't think most people do that, although some may.

Re:Workers Are Fleeing Big Cities for Small Ones, and Taking... by perl4ever on Sunday September 08, 2019 @12:15AM (#20908568)
It's debatable whether I am in a suburb or not at the moment - I am barely technically within the city limits, about 3.5 miles from the middle. But anyway, per Google Maps, I'm about 8 minutes drive from work, 54 minutes bus ride, and 62 minutes walk! Bicycling is estimated at barely over 20 minutes.

When I lived 10 minutes walk from work, the bus took about the same time, but waiting for its schedule meant practically speaking it was more like 30 minutes. It felt a little safer than scrambling across three highways, but after a bit, I couldn't stand the wait, so I went back to walking, and then to driving.

If I lived in a popular suburb further to the north, then I wouldn't be able to ride the bus at all (although that's too far of a commute for me by car)

So, across the whole range of commute distances, I can't see any situation where riding the bus makes sense. It either takes essentially as long as walking, or isn't available at all.