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Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by mensetmanusman on Saturday September 07, 2019 @08:27AM (#20903350)
China’s methods worked on Tibet; I expect the Uighur culture to be dramatically changed in a generation, especially since recording devices are being put in the homes of these people to prevent passage of oral culture/history to the young.

After the Uighur culture is gone, will China keep the surveillance technology in place, e.g. the face scans required to enter the strip-malls, etc.?

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by anoncow621 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @09:19AM (#20903581)
What’s really interesting is the perspective regular Chinese have on how to develop Tibet.

There’s a great article from The Atlantic, where they interviewed Chinese teachers and social workers that chose to go to Tibet [1].

One comment that stood out was this: “First, I will use my friendship to help [the Tibetans]. But if they refuse my friendship, I will use war to develop them, like the Americans did with the Indians."

1. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1999/02/tibet-t...

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by trynumber9 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:50AM (#20904074)
The wars against Tibetan peoples, in a broad sense, have a much longer history than the American Indian wars. So it's no surprise that some would still think in those terms. And the American west is a good example of why many Tibetans are skeptical of Han migration. The western US has no chance to become independent because it was modernized by American settlers much like the Han settlers are modernizing Tibet.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by cdmckay on Saturday September 07, 2019 @11:12AM (#20904230)
I think the word you want is colonized, not modernized.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by jplayer01 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:02PM (#20905019)
I think that's what he means when he says modernize. As in "modernize". Seems entirely intentional to me on several levels. I'm sure the Chinese do see it as modernizing, even if the reality is much more despicable.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by mc32 on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:02PM (#20905018)
Sure but colonization has pretty much always brought modernization with it: Roman, Mongol, Ottoman, Spanish, etc.

But on the flip side, often times the local pop suffers great losses.

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by deogeo on Saturday September 07, 2019 @08:49AM (#20903446)
> recording devices are being put in the homes of these people to prevent passage of oral culture/history to the young

This is the first time I hear of this, but I haven't been paying close attention - can you tell me more about it?

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by brendanw on Saturday September 07, 2019 @01:58PM (#20905419)
https://www.shahit.biz/eng/ Here is a database of over 5000 video testimonials by people who have had family members disappeared into Chinese "re-education camps". You can spit the database file out as a .xls and text search it. I found four accounts of forced abortions for women held in the camps.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by deogeo on Saturday September 07, 2019 @03:11PM (#20905841)
I meant specifically the recording devices in homes. I'm otherwise aware of China's general anti-Uyghur policy.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by nemothekid on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:55AM (#20904098)
Not OP; I've only come across this in a Vice documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

I don't think the surveillance has the explicit purpose of preventing cultural reproduction, but I can imagine it has a chilling effect.

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by rolltiide on Saturday September 07, 2019 @09:08AM (#20903543)
I’ve also been having trouble getting more information on this

People would ironically prefer to censor my interest at all, or thats how it seems

Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by wyxuan on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:35AM (#20903987)
Planet money had a recent episode that was really good on the Uighers that you could listen to.
Re:Apple Hints China Behind ‘Billion Device iPhone Hack’ Tha... by entropea on Saturday September 07, 2019 @10:27AM (#20903941)