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Re:Tell HN: Please Remove SMS as a 2nd Factor by iraldir on Friday September 06, 2019 @06:48AM (#20894524)
Yeah also expecting everyone to have a mobile phone is a bit elitist. Mobile phones aren't a public service and as such should not be required of user. I stayed in London with no phone number for 4 month after moving in (call it a social experiment or procrastination, it's probably a bit of both). Life is hard. The number of services that require a phone number of you, sometime for no reason, sometime for 2FA is staggering. You have to fight the system so much.

On top of that, your phone might not have battery, forgotten somewhere, died etc.

I think a simple password + fingerprinting measures (recognising the user based on his browser, IP, machine, behaviour etc.) to enable further checks (2FA with either mail, phone, device, security questions), and further messages in the future in case the attacker had access to that creates a better user experience / risk factor.

Re:Tell HN: Please Remove SMS as a 2nd Factor by 2rsf on Friday September 06, 2019 @08:38AM (#20895065)
> elitist

You can have a cheap second hand phone (Nokia 1200 ?) and a pre-paid SIM with no balance. The setup will cost you something like £10 and the above Nokia 1200 have a standby time of 390 hours or more than two weeks !