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Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by umvi on Monday September 02, 2019 @02:51PM (#20861078)
FWIW, I've done this before ("I downvoted you because...") and the question asker, instead of trying to improve their question, got combative/defensive which is not necessarily desirable either.

It's lose/lose. Don't tell them why and they get frustrated, tell them why and they get defensive. It takes a rare user to take the feedback and use it to improve their question.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by isodude on Monday September 02, 2019 @04:54PM (#20861688)
It's easier than you think. And I've thought that I was doing the right thing for a long time except I wasn't. Any time you explain something you first need to establish that you are on the same level as the submitter, then you can give advice. Like, "I see that you really tried with this question and you almost made it, if we rephrase it a bit it would improve even further!" It's true that most people have a problem with listening on feedback, but maybe it's a chicken and egg problem and you may be the solution to just that individual. We need to have a major postitive uplift on the forums of the Internet and you may be just that :)
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by galaxyLogic on Monday September 02, 2019 @09:45PM (#20863079)
> most people have a problem with listening on feedback

That is so true, even people giving negative feedback have trouble when they get negative feedback from someone else. Therefore I think the system, the site, should make it easier to give positive feedback, than negative.

To you know bring about a positive community feeling. The purpose of the site should be to help its users not to make oneself the over-arbiter of what is correct what is not.

Facebook has its share of problems but excessive unexplained down-votes is not one of them.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by isodude on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @02:05AM (#20864046)
Make it possible to only be positive and you will reach a better goal. Rather than moderate the users, moderate the mods such every response they give is purely positive.

This will spread and people will cling on. Soon you will reach self moderation due to the positive nature of the community.

Learning to accept feedback is much about learning that you may actually receive positive feedback and that your self worth is enough.

So I was listening to l to this guy Jim Thuresson which is a mental coach. His life is basically breathing positiviness, and his take on it is, it works, you shoukd do it too. If you fill your head space with 100% positive thoughts there's no room for anything negative. Maybe going on strong here, but it's such an important message. I just winder how we bring that thought onto the Internet.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by mdaniel on Monday September 02, 2019 @04:15PM (#20861495)
I like this taxonomy: https://idownvotedbecau.se although I would suggest there needs to be an "AND" mechanism, because https://idownvotedbecau.se/nodebugging/ is 80% of what I see, followed by https://idownvotedbecau.se/noattempt/ and its https://idownvotedbecau.se/unclearquestion/ friend. https://idownvotedbecau.se/imageofcode/ is annoying, for sure, but I rarely downvote for it, so long as the actual text is legible.