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Re:Knoppix 8.6 abandons systemd by ses1984 on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:54AM (#20852014)
If you do `sudo apache start` in production, how do you do it? Log in to the server and type it in?

What about log and metrics agents, how do you start and configure those?

Also why are you so judgemental? I don't want Debian and rhel to diverge because I have clients who use both and I don't want to have to do more work to support both.

Re:Knoppix 8.6 abandons systemd by tannhaeuser on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:30AM (#20852174)
Sorry I didn't want to sound judgemental. My point was that your argument, taken to the extreme, undermines having multiple Linux distributions in the first place. Which is exactly the embrace-extend-extinguish aspect being talked about elsewhere in this thread.
Re:Knoppix 8.6 abandons systemd by ses1984 on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:47AM (#20852546)
I just can't conceive of how init could be extinguished, or how life would be worse in any way for me if I was never forced to deal with init again. What's the bad angle? Do I actually have skin in this game I didn't realize?

Edit: I am super duper cool with having multiple Linux distributions. I am just not really excited about being forced to interact with vastly different distros specifically in the course of doing my job.