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Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by hos234 on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:12AM (#20837497)
Someone needs to tell Taleb there is a field called Social Psychology where everything he is raving about is formally studied under the heading of Conformism or Group Dynamics.

For those actually interested in this stuff, beyond Taleb's stand-up routines, look up the work of Kurt Lewin, Stanley Milgram, Solomon Asch, Phil Zambrado or Mel Slater. It's much more thought provoking.

These are very interesting times, because we finally have tons of data on how groups form, grow, break, merge etc And the ongoing merger of social psychology, political science, network theory as seen in the emergence of computational social science depts, doesn't just tell us how things work, but how to change and regulate the behavior and actions of groups. Early days but full of promise.

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by dagw on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:23AM (#20837538)
Someone needs to tell Taleb there is a field called Social Psychology where everything he is raving about is formally studied

He's a smart guy, so he's no doubt fully aware of all the people you mention. He's also equally aware that he sells more books than all those people combined by probably a couple of order of magnitude.

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by chiefalchemist on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:32AM (#20837572)
Aware? Sure. But I think the comment is directed at a lack of understanding. That is:

Understanding > Knowledge

Taleb hammer is economists. All his nails are defined by that hammer. Yes, it's one way of trying to manage thoughts about the __complex__ world around us. But it's not complete. It doesn't always work. That hammer has blindspots.

You'd think Taleb would know this as well. But his hammer doesn't change. The least he can do, as every good argument should, is to mention the blindspots and how others might have insights. He leaves that out of the picture.

Given Taleb's theory...ironic, huh?

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by dagw on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:37AM (#20837598)
There are two "Nassim Taleb's" out in the world. Taleb the academic and Taleb the pop-culture author and their writing styles are completely different. The former actually tries to make a coherent argument while the latter is basically competing with Gladwell to sell as many books as possible and gives zero fucks that not all his arguments stand up to scrutiny. Perhaps that is Taleb's attempt at being Antifragile.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by chiefalchemist on Friday August 30, 2019 @09:35AM (#20838423)
> " gives zero fucks that not all his arguments stand up to scrutiny."

Gives zero fucks his arguments are not arguments at all. What a shame.

Yeah Gladwell. Comes up with a theory, then cherry-picks for studies that support it, but never mentions anything that doesn't.

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by andreilys on Friday August 30, 2019 @10:32AM (#20838983)
Seems like a pretty wide sweeping generalization to say his arguments are not arguments at all.

What is your specific bone to pick with Taleb?

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by chiefalchemist on Friday August 30, 2019 @01:03PM (#20840402)
I was commenting on the comment, and rephrasing a bit for accuracy. That is, if you're being selective about the facts you present and you're not concerned about how solid your position is as a result, then you're not making an argument. Your intellectual laziness should not be rewarded.

Ultimately, you're just spewing bullshit, and in many cases just trying to use to reputation as a (cheap) substitute for truth and fact. Again, such intellectual laziness should not be rewarded.

I'm not sure why we're grown so tolerant and accepting of what so often amounts to raw bullshit.

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by pjc50 on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:59AM (#20837697)
> he sells more books than all those people combined by probably a couple of order of magnitude.

That's often an indicator that the content has been made inaccurate in the direction that people want to hear.

Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by sheldor on Friday August 30, 2019 @08:06AM (#20837736)
Being smart and being properly (academically) educated are two (very) different things.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by dagw on Friday August 30, 2019 @05:36PM (#20842953)
Again, not to defend Taleb too much, but he does have just about every academic credential a person can have.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by jpiabrantes on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:43AM (#20837611)
He "sells" these ideas as if he was the first one to ever think of them.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by abiro on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:18AM (#20837519)
He writes pop science here in what is an entertaining style for many. (He does reference Serge Galam in his book, one of the fathers of modern sociophysics.)
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by peteretep on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:28AM (#20837561)
I feel like we need a term for popsci like his and Jordan Peterson’s that instils in the reader an unearned feeling of elitism.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by KC8ZKF on Friday August 30, 2019 @08:11AM (#20837758)
Insight porn.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by bryanrasmussen on Friday August 30, 2019 @08:16AM (#20837790)
I get the feeling you don't think he is especially bright, which I must admit I didn't either, on the other hand if I thought he had all these insights on his own and did not have books to crib it from I would have to up my estimation.
Re:The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small M... by winchling on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:49AM (#20837645)
If you think Taleb's wrong, explain how!