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Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by chewz on Friday August 30, 2019 @01:23AM (#20836134)
Because advertising value of poor and dumb users of the internet is more profitable.

And Google is pretty bad at creating products so no one is willing to pay for them - Gmail, Search Google Cloud etc. - they can survive on the market only because they are free.

As long as Google products are free they can suffocate any potential competition. If Google products were paid for there would exist healthy competition that would marginalize Google in a blink of an eye.

Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by highhedgehog on Friday August 30, 2019 @05:20AM (#20836999)
Why do you think Google's product are bad? I find Gmail, GCloud (do you mean the Cloud Platform) ect work perfectly. What's wrong with them, apart for the "evilness" of collecting huge amounts of data of the user?
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by thorin on Friday August 30, 2019 @06:44AM (#20837365)
Well, Gmail was ok but then they decided to slow it down massively for no benefit. Sure paid services may work better, but "integrated" services are worth more so apple/google all in is the preferred approach.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by thiago_fm on Sunday September 01, 2019 @02:30PM (#20853845)
All other paid mail options are better, such as protonmail etc. It's just too expensive for me though. So I use GMail. Google can beat competition with storage space, integration and infinite money from Google cash cow etc. But the products are crap and I concur with the other person who commented on it that it's just another Google product to show ads and track me.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by highhedgehog on Monday September 02, 2019 @03:47AM (#20857436)
What do you find in other services that you think is better? Like proton-mail vs gmail.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by thiago_fm on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @11:29AM (#20867484)
It works very well, no downsides, apart the fact I need to pay. I'm not the product.

Gmail web almost eat all my memory and is kind of shitty and not snappy at all. I think even office 365 looks better atm. I don't know what happened to google, but it's probably something really wrong. Maybe it got too big that nobody cares anymore?

Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by ExtremePopcorn on Saturday August 31, 2019 @03:37PM (#20848369)
disclaimer: employee

"Google is pretty bad at creating products so no one is willing to pay for them"

doesn't track when facebook switched to gmail after giving up on microsoft exchange.

edit: also I work in ads, but won't bother responding to the "google just wants to manipulate dumb people" point. if you're starting from the assumption of malice I don't think the discussion would lead anywhere. and probably don't want to say more anyway, will delegate that to PR.

Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by dazc on Friday August 30, 2019 @10:28AM (#20838940)
Lots of people are paying for Gmail and Cloud, these are not good examples for your argument.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by catacombs on Friday August 30, 2019 @06:11PM (#20843173)
> Lots of people are paying for Gmail

You mean organizations who use it as their internal email service, correct? What, exactly, do you get compared to the free Gmail?

Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by sushid on Monday September 02, 2019 @07:52PM (#20862593)
I mean personal domain, managed SSO, support, etc for starters.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't Google offer more paid services? by dazc on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @12:12PM (#20868047)
Support and privacy plus your own domain.