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Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by rblatz on Thursday August 29, 2019 @07:20PM (#20834635)
I didn't realize that this was a special skill. I've always been able to see underwater, as long as the water is fairly clear. Depending on the pool I sometimes got irritated eyes, but it never really bothered me to have water in my eyes. Maybe that's why I never really had issues with my contacts either?
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by jolmg on Thursday August 29, 2019 @07:27PM (#20834674)
We can all see underwater. The story is about how these children can see far clearer underwater than other people.

Do you mean that you can see with total clarity? From back when I had good eyesight, I remember seeing blurry when opening my eyes underwater.

Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by mkl on Thursday August 29, 2019 @09:10PM (#20835159)
Not OP. When I was a kid I could only see blurry shapes underwater, until one day it was like something clicked and suddenly I could see as clearly as in air. I have no explanation, just an anecdote, and my vision is now poor everywhere.
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by Retric on Thursday August 29, 2019 @08:07PM (#20834850)
Not the op, but I could read my wrist watch underwater. Things get fuzzy at long range, but not out of focus. More like looking through a light fog.
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by fallingfrog on Thursday August 29, 2019 @08:26PM (#20834947)
I have always swam underwater with my eyes open (in lakes, never tried it in seawater) but I cannot bring things into focus. I see blurry shapes that tell me where the rocks are, that’s all. You can bring things into focus like in the air? Do you have perfect vision in the air, or nearsighted, or farsighted?
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by rblatz on Thursday August 29, 2019 @10:59PM (#20835625)
Yeah I can bring things into focus. I’ll have to jump into the pool this weekend and test it out a bit more. Also I’m very nearsighted. Without contacts in I probably see like the average person does in water.
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by WalterGR on Thursday August 29, 2019 @07:24PM (#20834665)
This subject has zero to do with eye irritation.

The kids had to dive underwater and place their heads onto a panel. From there they could see a card displaying either vertical or horizontal lines. Once they had stared at the card, they came back to the surface to report which direction the lines travelled. Each time they dived down, the lines would get thinner, making the task harder. It turned out that the Moken children were able to see twice as well as European children who performed the same experiment at a later date.

With the exception, I suppose, that with eye irritation it would be more difficult to complete the tests in the first place.

Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by tim333 on Thursday August 29, 2019 @07:48PM (#20834774)
They do mention irritation:

>She did notice, however, that the European kids would experience red eyes, irritated by the salt in the water, whereas the Moken children appeared to have no such problem. “So perhaps there is some adaptation there that allows them to dive down 30 times without any irritation,” she says.

Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by hnick on Thursday August 29, 2019 @09:04PM (#20835127)
I'm not sure it needs to be an adaptation (in a genetic sense), I think like most things our bodies just get used to it. I used to open my eyes underwater when swimming at the beach as a child on holidays, but not an adult. Having a salt water pool at home probably helped, but now that I rarely go to the beach it stings.
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by rblatz on Thursday August 29, 2019 @11:02PM (#20835641)
Right, I just mentioned that sometimes I got irritated eyes specifically in overly chlorinated public pools or swimming in indoor pools. Since I know that is a common complaint.
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by soperj on Thursday August 29, 2019 @11:49PM (#20835843)
How did they measure the clairity of the water to make sure they were the same?
Re:Children of a Thailand tribe who see with clarity beneath... by Jackim on Friday August 30, 2019 @07:50AM (#20837646)
A Secchi disk is a pretty reliable way to measure water clarity.