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Re:John Carmack on the Joe Rogan Experience [video] by likpok on Thursday August 29, 2019 @11:57AM (#20830633)
With a straight shot, latency from one coast to the other is at least 50 ms [0]. A more typical route is on the order of 80 ms.

That's definitely noticeable for latency-sensitive actions. I recently switched a server from Oregon to New Mexico, and I notice the latency increase with mosh.

Moreover, there's not a lot of timezone difference between the east and west coasts of the US. Going someplace like Europe is more like 180 ms.

I've played games with a ping like that, but a lot of the ping was my wifi. Doubling the latency would not make the game a better experience.

This could work well for certain types of game, those that are a little less latency-sensitive. But in general the latency is still a big issue.

[0]: speed of light in fiber is ~ 100e6 m/s, around 3000 miles between coasts

Re:John Carmack on the Joe Rogan Experience [video] by ses1984 on Thursday August 29, 2019 @01:18PM (#20831570)
Wow, I never realized my intuition was off by so much. Speed of light in vacuum is still about 16ms between coasts, which is orders of magnitude worse than I thought. I thought most latency came from routers and switches but a significant portion of delay is indeed speed of light.
Re:John Carmack on the Joe Rogan Experience [video] by davinic on Thursday August 29, 2019 @12:50PM (#20831244)
Exactly. And 60fps (which is not that high for many games) gives you 16.67ms per frame. at a 50ms delay you're already 3 frames behind.
Re:John Carmack on the Joe Rogan Experience [video] by msh on Thursday August 29, 2019 @01:00PM (#20831364)
Not all games are that latency depending. If I am playing civilization I probably won't care that much where the server is.
Re:John Carmack on the Joe Rogan Experience [video] by FrojoS on Friday August 30, 2019 @03:56PM (#20842035)
Neither, will you need to rent an expensive gaming rig by the hour, though.